Believing salvation comes from Messiah alone and is a gift from Elohim is very different from having received that salvation.
I would suggest, that post Calvary, even Satan and his hoards knew and believed the same thing as does B57 and his puppet.
Why I'm not Calvinist
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Believing salvation comes from Messiah alone and is a gift from Elohim is very different from having received that salvation.
I would suggest, that post Calvary, even Satan and his hoards knew and believed the same thing as does B57 and his puppet.
beloved57
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Most religions claim that they believe that Salvation is from Christ and something that they did not earn, but nevertheless they believe they had to do something to receive it ! Don't you believe that ?
musterion
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I ain't dead yet. I could be an elected one who God just hasn't gotten around to regenerating yet. Who are you to judge? You don't even know if you are elect. You could be a reprobate who just hasn't found out yet.
beloved57
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You dead spiritually to God, that is why you don't believe the Gospel, which is The Truths of Tulip !
Nanja
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That's exactly what it comes down to.
Calvinism, the Truths of Tulip, is the Gospel of God's Grace in Christ, found directly in the scriptures.
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beloved57
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Amen, it kills me to see how many ignore that the Truths of Tulip are scriptural !
beloved57
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That is why I said you are most likely condemned and of the non elect !
musterion
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Why would you even try to guess? You don't know that you're not reprobate.
beloved57
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Who said I was guessing ! I'm not guessing about you being a unbeliever, that I know for sure !
Nanja
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They do! Frankly, most here don't believe the bible as a whole anyway, and they hate the scriptures that speak of
Total Depravity, Unconditional Election, Limited Atonement, Irresistible Grace, and Preservation of the Saints.
I see it all the time on this forum.
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beloved57
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Yeah I know whether or not if I am a reprobate, you don't however, but you will find out at the Judgment !
beloved57
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Yeah you are right ! God has sent them a strong delusion to believe a lie and not to believe the truth !
Nanja
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Yes, God is the Cause of them believing a lie which leads to their condemnation,
and all according to His Perfect Will 2 Thes. 2:11-12; Prov. 16:4!
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beloved57
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Amen!
False Prophet
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Where is Robert Pate?
For me, it is false gospel and outside the faith.
Notice how the accursed never quote scripture when they say things like this.
bsmitts
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No, I am a believer in Christ, but according to Calvinism, all that really matters is that God has "chosen" me. I'm sorry, but there's something wrong with that to me. For instance, Beloved, how do you know God has chosen you? Have you received some vision or dream from God or something? Because I believe in Christ, but it wasn't through a vision or a discernible miracle unless you consider that I heard the gospel message, was convicted, and received. So, Beloved, how do YOU know God has chosen you?
bsmitts
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John 9:39 says basically the same thing because Jesus perceived that they didn't get it the first time. He clarified.