Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 3

[alwight]

I wouldn't expect anything different from a homosexualist atheist like yourself Al.



alwight the atheist once again shows how intimidated he gets when people are told that they're living a lie and are capable of change.



As I had mentioned in one of the earlier threads, your sodomite movement was responsible for having charges brought up against Pastor Lively, using an old statute that is irrelevant to his visit to Uganda.

On Wednesday, August 14, a federal judge, denying a motion to dismiss, ruled that a Soros-backed pro-homosexual "civil rights" organization, Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) based in New York, can move forward and sue Pastor Scott Lively of Springfield, Mass. for allegedly committing international "crimes against humanity."
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen2/13a/lively_hearing_010713/ruling_081413.html

It was wise for him not to talk about a pending case (which he stated he had discussed with the moderator on previous occasions), plus the debate was about Vicky Beeching, not Lively's visit to Uganda.




Unless Beeching repents her sinful behavior and accepts Jesus Christ as her Lord and Savior, you'll have a good looking woman (at least good looking now) spending eternity with you in Hell Al.

I still rather suspect that you might be a deliberate parody, playing a role here aCW, well you have the same general effect as one.
If so then by all means do tell me by PM and I'll try not make things so difficult for you.

 

[TracerBullet]

so you finally got a girlfriend Nazaroo. so where did you two meet up?

 

[TracerBullet]

I'm going to temporarily divert from the subject of homosexual violence, specifically homosexual serial killers so that I can share this message and video from Pastor Scott Lively.

so you want to trade a fiction for another piece of fiction?

An Open Letter to Christian Leaders in America

20 August, 2014

On June 28, 1969 the homosexual political movement, which had previously defined its goal as “the right to be left alone,” took a militant turn. At the Stonewall Bar on Christopher Street in New York City, “gay” activists rioted against police who tried to arrest an underage “drag queen” prostitute. That episode of violent rebellion is now commemorated annually as “Gay Pride Day.”

Their inspiration was Herbert Marcuse, the German-born philosopher and political strategist who headed the “Frankfort School” of Cultural Marxism. From a perch in the highest branches of American academia Marcuse railed against “the repressive order of procreative sexuality” and called for the “disintegration of the…monogamic and patriarchal family.”*


In 1972, two hundred homosexual organizations, representing the entire LGBT movement, met in Chicago to outline their Marcusian agenda: a blueprint for supplanting Biblical morality with sexual anarchy — in essence, the overthrow of family-centered Christian civilization.

is this the same agenda that didn't exist until 1991?

In 1973, their “long march through the institutions” began with the political takeover of the American Psychiatric Association (APA) to redefine homosexuality as psychologically healthy.

of course the complete lack of evidence that homosexuality is a pathology had nothing to do with it.

 

[jgarden]

Instead of gays being incarcerated as the OP suggests, why couldn't one member of a homosexual couple undergo a sex change operation - their sexual orientation would remain the same but they would possess the necessary body "parts" to circumvent the traditional marriage laws!

 

[GFR7]

Instead of gays being incarcerated as the OP suggests, why couldn't one member of a homosexual couple undergo a sex change operation - their sexual orientation would remain the same but they would possess the necessary body "parts" to circumvent the traditional marriage laws!

They wouldn't want that. A gay man's identity is bound up in being a man with another man.

 

[jgarden]

They wouldn't want that. A gay man's identity is bound up in being a man with another man.

I presume "GFR7" is referring to sex, but like any married couple will tell you, the amount of time engaged in sex represents a very small % of any relationship.

The gay community is not campaigning for gay marriage so they can engage in sex.

 

[GFR7]

I presume "GFR7" is referring to sex, but like any married couple will tell you, the amount of time engaged in sex represents a very small % of any relationship.

The gay community is not campaigning for gay marriage so they can engage in sex.

Their identity is still a man with a man, or a woman with a woman. Gay men would be insulted to "become female" to obtain a same sex marriage. And marriage is a sexual union, which is why minors cannot get married. "The two become one flesh". The whole SSM thing is based on a false premise, in any case.

 

[resurrected]

so you finally got a girlfriend Nazaroo. so where did you two meet up?

i think that's naz on the right

 

[Christian Liberty]

I presume "GFR7" is referring to sex, but like any married couple will tell you, the amount of time engaged in sex represents a very small % of any relationship.

The gay community is not campaigning for gay marriage so they can engage in sex.

While this is true, do you really think someone who is sexually attracted to men will want a woman? Even a fake woman?

Sexual attraction is part of it, for everyone.

 

[Christian Liberty]

Actually, I had never heard him claim to have been a cop. I really just find all his "move on" and orders to stay off his threads - while he feels complete freedom to go on the threads of those he commands - to be cop-like. And no, it is not a compliment, although my brother-in-law is a Homicide and Major Crimes Lieutenant, whom I admire.

If your brother in law is in homicide, that may be a unique situation... I doubt he's going after drug users and the like.

 

[Christian Liberty]

During the Stonewall riots, gay people were angry at cops for aggressively restricting their rights to engage in peaceful actions. Much as I disagree with homosexuality, their response was understandable.

To quote Walter Block (Watch how much this infuriates aCW)

Let me begin this second foray of mine by first summarizing what I said, initially, and then responding to this publication of Mr. Massimino’s. In my article, I wanted to make two points of clarification about libertarianism. First, against the feminists. While rape is of course a violation of the libertarian non-aggression principle (NAP), “leering” at women certainly is not. For the feminists in India to offer a video objecting to the latter, in the context of the former, was an outrage in my opinion. Second, against the gays. At the time of the Stonewall riots of 1969, homosexuals who participated in it were acting in a manner fully compatible with the NAP. They were defending their right to engage in consenting adult behavior. But nowadays, all too many members of the gay community are insisting that other people tolerate their lifestyle, interact with them against their will, something they have no right to do. The Libertarian Republican blog, in a republication of my initial essay put it this way, very appropriately: “Gays have gone from sexual libertarians to anti-choice, sexual lifestyle totalitarians in less than 4 decades.”

http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/01/walter-e-block/homosexuality-feminism-and-libertarianism/

 

[GFR7]

If your brother in law is in homicide, that may be a unique situation... I doubt he's going after drug users and the like.

You're right. He works for the county prosecutor's office, and is often on the scene and speaking to people whom detectives have already had confess to homicides. He is genuinely fair and actually a quiet, refined person. No, all that sting stuff and setups and raids are not part of his work, thankfully.

 

[Christian Liberty]

You're right. He works for the county prosecutor's office, and is often on the scene and speaking to people whom detectives have already had confess to homicides. He is genuinely fair and actually a quiet, refined person. No, all that sting stuff and setups and raids are not part of his work, thankfully.

:thumb:

BTW: When you are dealing with well-meaning cops and their families, I think tact can be justified. How much you're willing to tolerate and where you draw the line and just tell them flat out how wrong they are, that's going to be between you and God. I'm not sure there's a right or wrong answer.

When you're dealing with authoritarian scumbags like aCW, I think tact is mostly a waste of time.

 

[Dark Radiance]

Their inspiration was Herbert Marcuse, the German-born philosopher and political strategist who headed the “Frankfort School” of Cultural Marxism. From a perch in the highest branches of American academia Marcuse railed against “the repressive order of procreative sexuality” and called for the “disintegration of the…monogamic and patriarchal family.”*

An interesting opinon, especially since Marcuse's views are essentially anti-Marxist. Marcuse in his works ignored Marx's critique of Hegel and discarded the historical theory of class struggle, which is a quintessential Marxist paradigm.
Marcuse was far more of a neo-Freudian than a Marxist.
As a side note, it is spelled FRANKFURT.

 

[Nazaroo]

i think that's naz on the right

Either way, some GBLT ideologue is jealously offended...

 

[Nazaroo]

I presume "GFR7" is referring to sex, but like any married couple will tell you, the amount of time engaged in sex represents a very small % of any relationship.

Of course the gay community wants to remedy that.

The gay community is not campaigning for gay marriage so they can engage in sex.

..or, they are even bigger fools than
they already transparently are.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

During the Stonewall riots, gay people were angry at cops for aggressively restricting their rights to engage in peaceful actions.

In the Libertarian world, a bunch of old fags (chicken hawks) sodomizing underage teenage boys and giving them drugs is "peaceful actions" :

Probably the best known part of the homosexual movement is what sodomites call "gay pride parades". Each June throughout the world, millions of moral degenerates (GLBT's straight allies are included in that term) gather in major cities to pay tribute to those that lead the way to what we're seeing in our culture and laws today.

If it weren't for these brave people, drag queens, dykes on bikes and a various of assortment of nude and semi nude perverts wouldn't be parading down city streets in front of thousands and thousands of innocent children in the name of "pride".

Here are some of the unnamed heroes of the early gay rights movement that frequented the Stonewall Inn, where "chicken hawks" supplied drugs to teenage boys so that they'd have sex with them.

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3362764&postcount=5030
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3189737&postcount=1402

And now, a disclaimer (in case mommy and daddy are reading) :

Much as I disagree with homosexuality, their response was understandable.

To quote Walter Block...

So is your atheist pedophile leader still fantasizing about having sex with 4 year old boys? (who are not adults).

"Suppose that there is a starvation situation, and the parent of the four year old child (who is not an adult) does not have enough money to keep him alive. A wealthy NAMBLA man offers this parent enough money to keep him and his family alive – if he will consent to his having sex with the child. We assume, further, that this is the only way to preserve the life of this four year old boy. Would it be criminal child abuse for the parent to accept this offer? Not on libertarian grounds. For surely it is better for the child to be a live victim of sexual abuse rather than unsullied and dead. Rather, it is the parent who consents to the death of his child, when he could have kept him alive by such extreme measures, who is the real abuser."

Walter Block
Reason Papers Vol. 26; Page 58
Libertarianism vs Objectivism; A Response to Peter Schwartz
http://www.reasonpapers.com/pdf/26/rp_26_4.pdf
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3817326&postcount=5831

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote:
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

Their inspiration was Herbert Marcuse, the German-born philosopher and political strategist who headed the “Frankfort School” of Cultural Marxism. From a perch in the highest branches of American academia Marcuse railed against “the repressive order of procreative sexuality” and called for the “disintegration of the…monogamic and patriarchal family.”*

An interesting opinon, especially since Marcuse's views are essentially anti-Marxist. Marcuse in his works ignored Marx's critique of Hegel and discarded the historical theory of class struggle, which is a quintessential Marxist paradigm.
Marcuse was far more of a neo-Freudian than a Marxist.

From the website "qlbtq social sciences: an encyclopedia of gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender and queer culture" :

Marcuse, Herbert (1898-1979)

German-born philosopher Herbert Marcuse was one of the leading theorists of the New Left in Europe and the United States in the late 1960s. Much like Michel Foucault in a later generation, Marcuse had an enormous influence on theories of sexual liberation, particularly in the early post-Stonewall gay movement and on the left.

Many young people in the 1960s adopted Marcuse-like sexual politics as the basis for the counter-culture's radical transformation of values. By exploring drugs, music and sex, they sought to experience what Marcuse described as an "erotic sense of reality."

Marcuse's book Eros and Civilization (1955), a synthesis of the thought of Sigmund Freud and Karl Marx, also played an influential role in the writing of early proponents of gay liberation, such as Dennis Altman and Martin Duberman, and it influenced radical gay groups such as the Gay Liberation Front's Red Butterfly Collective.

Born on July 19, 1898 in Berlin, Marcuse grew up in a comfortable upper-middle class Jewish neighborhood. In 1916, at the height of World War I, he was forced to complete his Gymnasium (that is, private high school) studies in an accelerated wartime program in order to be drafted into the Imperial German Army.

A year later, he joined the Social Democratic Party (Germany's socialist party). With Germany's defeat in 1918, Marcuse joined the revolt staged by workers and soldiers to protest the government's disastrous management of the war and the collapse of the German economy. He served briefly on the Soldier's Council in Berlin.

The Republic founded in Weimar after the overthrow of the Kaiser failed to solve the political and economic problems created by the war. Marcuse withdrew from the daily politics of the revolutionary upheavals and enrolled in Humboldt University in Berlin. He soon transferred his studies to the University of Freiberg in order to study with the eminent German existentialist philosopher Martin Heidegger.

In the years between 1920 and 1932, he moved in leftist intellectual circles. Among his friends were the German literary critic Walter Benjamin and the philosopher Max Horkheimer.

In 1932, he joined the Marxist-influenced Institute for Social Research at the University of Frankfurt. The following year the Nazi party came to power and closed the Institute, whereupon it moved to the United States and re-opened at Columbia University in New York City...

The Red Butterfly Collective, a Marxist faction of the Gay Liberation Front, also echoed Marcuse. The group stressed the importance of a democratic socialist perspective. "Human liberation," it noted in its comment on Carl Wittman's path-breaking Gay Manifesto (1969), "in all its forms, including Gay Liberation, requires effective self determination, i.e. democracy, in all spheres of social life affecting the lives of people as a whole." The group adopted as its motto the final line from the "Political Preface" of the 1966 edition of Eros and Civilization: "Today the fight for life, the fight for Eros is the political fight."
Read more: http://www.glbtq.com/social-sciences/marcuse_h.html

Herb and his fellow Communist/Marxist Angela Davis having a chat in 1970.

As a side note, it is spelled FRANKFURT.

At least you got something right.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior

It was wise for him not to talk about a pending case (which he stated he had discussed with the moderator on previous occasions), plus the debate was about Vicky Beeching, not Lively's visit to Uganda.

Unless Beeching repents her sinful behavior and accepts Jesus Christ as her Lord and Savior, you'll have a good looking woman (at least good looking now) spending eternity with you in Hell Al.

I still rather suspect that you might be a deliberate parody, playing a role here aCW, well you have the same general effect as one.
If so then by all means do tell me by PM and I'll try not make things so difficult for you.

I bet you're asking yourself the same thing that many others are asking themselves:

What caused Vicky Beeching's homosexual desires?

I had to do a fair amount of research Al, as Miss Vicky doesn't talk much about her youth. I finally found out why Miss Vicky is so turned off by men in her feminist blog:

I would say that seeing those images of women on men’s pin-up calendars, on the accidentally-left-open Sun’s Page 3 and on the high up shelves of newsagents when browsing the kids comics had the following effects:

- It damaged my understanding of what it means to be a woman; the lie that we are only worth as much as the attractiveness of our bodies.

- It taught me from a tiny age that to get men’s attention, women “have” to look a certain way and that becoming physically attractive should be our all-consuming task.

- It hit me with the reality that women are sex objects within culture and this must just be accepted not challenged. Even though this deeply upset me as a little girl I already felt like I was faced with the need to accept this as the norm.

- It actually made me not want to be a woman as I felt like my ‘lot’ in life was a terrible one: that I was destined to spend my days fighting to look attractive only in order to be used as some kind of object.

http://vickybeeching.com/blog/the-fight-for-feminism/

What causes homosexual desires?

If homosexual impulses are not inherited, what kinds of influences do cause strong homosexual desires? No one answer is acceptable to all researchers in the field. Important factors, however, seem to fall into four categories. As with so many other odd sexual proclivities, males appear especially susceptible:


1. Homosexual experience:
•any homosexual experience in childhood, especially if it is a first sexual experience or with an adult
•any homosexual contact with an adult, particularly with a relative or authority figure (in a random survey, 5% of adult homosexuals vs 0.8% of heterosexuals reported childhood sexual involvements with elementary or secondary school teachers (5).

2. Family abnormality, including the following:
•a dominant, possessive, or rejecting mother
•an absent, distant, or rejecting father
•a parent with homosexual proclivities, particularly one who molests a child of the same sex
•a sibling with homosexual tendencies, particularly one who molests a brother or sister
•the lack of a religious home environment
•divorce, which often leads to sexual problems for both the children and the adults
•parents who model unconventional sex roles
•condoning homosexuality as a legitimate lifestyle– welcoming homosexuals (e.g., co-workers, friends) into the family circle

3. Unusual sexual experience, particularly in early childhood:
•precocious or excessive masturbation
•exposure to pornography in childhood
•depersonalized sex (e.g., group sex, sex with animals)
•or girls, sexual interaction with adult males

4. Cultural influences:
•a visible and socially approved homosexual sub-culture that invites curiosity and encourages exploration
•pro-homosexual sex education
•openly homosexual authority figures, such as teachers (4% of Kinsey's and 4% of FRI's gays reported that their first homosexual experience was with a teacher)
•societal and legal toleration of homosexual acts
•depictions of homosexuality as normal and/or desirable behavior
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3393262&postcount=17

 

[aCultureWarrior]

@aCW:

One more change which has occurred since you and yours decided to "sleep at the wheel":

The reason LGBTQ groups have issued a press release unified statement condemning the Ferguson, Missouri shooting, is that they want a foothold in the deep South:

What about when your LGBT comrades issued a press release defending (Saint) Trayvon Martin?

LGBT Groups Issue Statement of Support for Trayvon Martin

Thirty-five left-of-center lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) groups have released a statement regarding Trayvon Martin, saying, “[W]e will honor Trayvon Martin by strengthening our commitment to end bias, hatred, profiling and violence across our communities.”

The groups commitment to honor Martin by "ending bias and profiling" came just hours before Martin’s friend revealed that he had profiled Zimmerman as a gay "rapist.”

Rachel Jeantel, a key witness in the prosecution's failed case against George Zimmerman, first made headlines when inconsistencies were revealed in her statements and after she made controversial statements when she testified Martin said he racially profiled Zimmerman as a “creepy *** cracka.”

Jeantel was a guest on Piers Morgan hours after the LGBT groups’ statement of support was released and claimed, “Definitely after I say might be a rapist, for every boy, for every man, every... who’s not that kind of way, see a grown man following them, would they be creep [sic] out?”

The LGBT groups signing on to the statement of support for Martin are listed below:

All Out
American Civil Liberties Union
Believe Out Loud
BiNet USA
Bisexual Resource Center
Center for Black Equity
CenterLink: The Community of LGBT Centers
Consortium of Higher Education LGBT Resource Professionals
Equality Federation
Family Equality Council
Freedom to Work
Gay, Lesbian & Straight Education Network
Gay-Straight Alliance Network (GSA Network)
GetEQUAL
GMHC
GLAD
GLAAD
Harvey Milk Foundation
Human Rights Campaign
Immigration Equality
Lambda Legal
Movement Advancement Project
National Black Justice Coalition
National Center for Lesbian Rights
National Coalition of Anti-Violence Programs
National Gay & Lesbian Chamber of Commerce.
National Gay and Lesbian Task Force
National Minority AIDS Council
National Queer Asian Pacific Islander Alliance
Out & Equal Workplace Advocates
PFLAG National
The Trevor Project
Trans Advocacy Network
Transgender Law Center
Trans People of Color Coalition
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...-Prior-To-Report-He-Profiled-GZ-as-Gay-Rapist

And how about when your comrades defended Black Panther and cold blooded cop killer Mumia Abu-Jamal?

From the communist periodical "Workers World":

LGBT activists stand with Mumia

Published Apr 16, 2008 10:46 PM

Rainbow Flags for Mumia is a coalition of lesbian, gay, bi and trans people and organizations that came together in 1999 to demand a new trial for Mumia Abu-Jamal. The following are excerpts from a call issued by RF4M organizers Imani Henry and LeiLani Dowell to help raise awareness and solidarity with the Free Mumia rally in Philadelphia on April 19. To endorse this call, e-mail RF4Mumia@gmail.com.

In 2008, we as LGBT peoples are outraged that we continue to face racist, anti-LGBT violence in the streets, in our homes, at the hands of police and the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency (ICE). In 2008, it is a crime that there is still not a cure for AIDS, while we face devastating cuts in services, health care and research.

It is an injustice that the economic rights afforded heterosexual couples are still denied us and our families. And just like the majority of workers in the U.S., we are incensed by the deepening economic crisis—with increasing rates of unemployment, the lack of affordable housing and an exponential increase in foreclosures and evictions, while the Bush administration continues to spend billions on the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Moreover, even our most human right to defend ourselves from anti-gay violence is denied, sending more of us to jail, like the Jersey 4, young African-American lesbians who were sentenced up to 11 years in prison. We see the Jersey 4 as a politically motivated case, centered on the racist gentrification of the birthplace of the 1969 Stonewall Rebellion, the West Village of New York City.

Read more: http://www.workers.org/2008/us/lgbt_0424/

For those of you not familiar with how Mumia Abu-Jamal murdered Philadelphia Police Officer Daniel Faulkner:

On December 9, 1981, Philadelphia Officer Daniel Faulkner pulled over a car driven by William Cook, brother of Mumia Abu-Jamal, the former Wesley Cook. While Officer Faulkner and Cook were by the side of the road talking about the traffic stop, Cook struck the officer in the face.

Officer Faulkner tried to subdue Cook when Mumia ran across the street and shot Faulkner in the back. Faulkner returned fire, hitting Abu-Jamal in the shoulder.

Abu-Jamal shot Officer Faulkner five times, once in the face from a foot away while standing over him.

This was according to witnesses at the scene.

Abu-Jamal was later picked up in a hospital.

A hospital security guard heard Abu-Jamal saying, “I shot the &^%$#@! and I hope he dies."

Abu-Jamal was convicted and sentenced to death.

Abu-Jamal then set about making a career out of demonizing the police and whining about his sentence.

The radical left idolizes Mumia and sees him as a fighter against police oppression of minorities. There were “Free Mumia” signs throughout Occupy Wall Street.
http://www.independentsentinel.com/...pion-of-a-cop-killer-to-top-civil-rights-job/
http://www.murderpedia.org/male.A/a/abu-jamal.htm

Officer Daniel Faulkner

The common denominator between your homosexual movement and the atheist communist/Marxist movement is this:

They both HATE Judeo-Christian doctrine.