annabenedetti
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I'm not seeing a connection, however, between what a pastor says, and what a child might hear in therapy.
What do you think about what the pastor said?
I'm not seeing a connection, however, between what a pastor says, and what a child might hear in therapy.
I'm not seeing a connection, however, between what a pastor says, and what a child might hear in therapy. For instance, my daughter asked what I'd say to her if she had gender confusion. I told her that
"God made her a girl and that regardless of any confusion, we are humans and to love God as humans. We don't have to act upon sexual impulses and as such, we don't need to get into that discussion on those terms. I told her I was completely celibate and appropriate until I married at 27 and that such then is about behavior. It wouldn't matter an iota what gender I was attracted to, nobody would have ever seen anything inappropriate from me either toward girls or guys, so much so, that some people might have wondered if I was gay. I simply didn't entertain attractions as much as I entertained loving people of who they are. "
She grasped all of that just fine AND that's what is actually wrong with homosexuality or other sexual sins, hetero, homo, or whatever.
What do you think about what the pastor said?
The reconstruction thing is a difficult prospect. For me, the answer isn't about gender-desire, but about God-centered thinking. I'm not sure what a parent would take away from that small bit of information or how to actually use it, so I've no idea. I simply think it is better to talk about who we are in Christ as to how that affects our desires.What do you think about what the pastor said?
The reconstruction thing is a difficult prospect. For me, the answer isn't about gender-desire, but about God-centered thinking. I'm not sure what a parent would take away from that small bit of information or how to actually use it, so I've no idea. I simply think it is better to talk about who we are in Christ as to how that affects our desires.
Romans 14:8 If we live, we live for the Lord; and if we die, we die for the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord.
Guys are guys: We read each other differently than actual on stuff like this, especially with "Man up." As such, I don't 'think' we read it as literal, probably forgetting that a woman might. That said, if he literally means it, that the child should be punched? No, I'm against that and against a preacher meaning this literally. Macho shouldn't mean random acts of physical contact. I'm not into punching guys in the arm either though, so I can't speak for all males nor would I try to emasculate (take away any of their God-given masculinity).I'm talking about this, Lon:
"Dads, the second you see your son dropping the limp wrist, you walk over there and crack that wrist. Man up. Give him a good punch. Ok?" ...These are men you'd want to see preaching to a congregation?
My father and father-in-law are both more masculine than I and have sensibilities along that line I don't always get. I don't think they'd see anything wrong with this either. For me, it isn't right, but Jesus took a whip into the temple and cleansed it. I can't be less masculine that He without it becoming a Spiritual problem. I guess I'm saying I share your concern but perhaps without the condemnation. I'm still often left at the back of the line trying to figure these things out, long after others have made judgment calls and moved on to other subjects. I hope and pray that doesn't make me limp-wristed, but merely overtly analytical and perhaps behind the times.aCW saw nothing wrong with a different pastor who claimed he'd full on punched a kid in the chest. Maybe aCW doesn't see a problem with breaking a kid's wrist either.
Guys are guys: We read each other differently than actual on stuff like this, especially with "Man up." As such, I don't 'think' we read it as literal, probably forgetting that a woman might. That said, if he literally means it, that the child should be punched? No, I'm against that and against a preacher meaning this literally. Macho shouldn't mean random acts of physical contact. I'm not into punching guys in the arm either though, so I can't speak for all males nor would I try to emasculate (take away any of their God-given masculinity).
My father and father-in-law are both more masculine than I and have sensibilities along that line I don't always get. I don't think they'd see anything wrong with this either. For me, it isn't right, but Jesus took a whip into the temple and cleansed it. I can't be less masculine that He without it becoming a Spiritual problem. I guess I'm saying I share your concern but perhaps without the condemnation. I'm still often left at the back of the line trying to figure these things out, long after others have made judgment calls and moved on to other subjects. I hope and pray that doesn't make me limp-wristed, but merely overtly analytical and perhaps behind the times.
hi anna, i like ur username !atrol:I can't answer this tonight, Lon. I'm very tired and I can't write it the way I want to, so I'll try again tomorrow.
I understand. I have to say that though I'm a bit more sensitive, I'm thankful for my step father. And my two macho brothers, even if they both can about break me in half, or punch me in the arm. I'm sure I'd not be much of a male without them. I'm not sure if that justifies a nun with a ruler, I'm just saying I'm always looking to be balance between what is macho, and then what is abusive. I 'used' to have a hard time with a picture in my mind of Jesus with a whip. I don't any more. That was my hang-up and I needed to "Man-up" as it were. I'm not sure if women are ever supposed to "man-up."I can't answer this tonight, Lon. I'm very tired and I can't write it the way I want to, so I'll try again tomorrow.
It wouldn't matter an iota what gender I was attracted to, nobody would have ever seen anything inappropriate from me either toward girls or guys, so much so, that some people might have wondered if I was gay. I simply didn't entertain attractions as much as I entertained loving people of who they are. "
Guys are guys: We read each other differently than actual on stuff like this, especially with "Man up." As such, I don't 'think' we read it as literal, probably forgetting that a woman might. That said, if he literally means it, that the child should be punched? No, I'm against that and against a preacher meaning this literally. Macho shouldn't mean random acts of physical contact. I'm not into punching guys in the arm either though, so I can't speak for all males nor would I try to emasculate (take away any of their God-given masculinity).
In my opinion, advocating breaking a "limp wrist" or punching a boy in the chest (not the arm Lon, the chest) isn't an indication of masculinity but an indication of someone with a mean streak, a ego problem, or a god complex - maybe all of those things combined and more I haven't thought of. So many times I've seen Christians justify their meanness because Jesus took a whip and cleared the temple area. I think that often makes other Christians hesitate and that's long enough for them to decide that maybe that meanness is justified, so they stand aside and say nothing. In actuality, standing against bullying is a very masculine thing for a man to do, and it should go without saying that it ought to be a very Christian thing to do as well.My father and father-in-law are both more masculine than I and have sensibilities along that line I don't always get. I don't think they'd see anything wrong with this either. For me, it isn't right, but Jesus took a whip into the temple and cleansed it. I can't be less masculine that He without it becoming a Spiritual problem. I guess I'm saying I share your concern but perhaps without the condemnation. I'm still often left at the back of the line trying to figure these things out, long after others have made judgment calls and moved on to other subjects. I hope and pray that doesn't make me limp-wristed, but merely overtly analytical and perhaps behind the times.
I understand. I have to say that though I'm a bit more sensitive, I'm thankful for my step father. And my two macho brothers, even if they both can about break me in half, or punch me in the arm. I'm sure I'd not be much of a male without them. I'm not sure if that justifies a nun with a ruler, I'm just saying I'm always looking to be balance between what is macho, and then what is abusive. I 'used' to have a hard time with a picture in my mind of Jesus with a whip. I don't any more. That was my hang-up and I needed to "Man-up" as it were. I'm not sure if women are ever supposed to "man-up."
There is only 1 tenet of atheism, and that is that we are all determined and that we are not free, which is silliness on its face, and it forms the foundation for the atheists' house of cards. And this fatalism can be ridiculed and pummeled until nobody believes it. But we need to do it together.
...We are all born with various inclinations, some of which aren't good or good for us. We don't have to be the slave of our impulses.
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As keen as you apparently are to consider religion entirely to blame for gay suicides, I for one don't particularly think that is so. There are in fact many social factors involved, though it's sometimes through religion that ignorant personal bigotry is expressed.Since the blood of these morally confused youth who took their lives are on the hands of homosexualists like GFR7, Art Brain, annabenedetti , patrick jane and the barbarian, I'll dedicate these next 5 posts talking about 'gay' teen suicide to them and see if they can live with themselves knowing that they are part of an evil movement that causes the death of innocents such as these boys (they can live with themselves, as that same movement is responsible for 58 million unborn babies being murdered in the womb in the past 42 years).
Since the blood of these morally confused youth who took their lives are on the hands of homosexualists like
I'm talking about this, Lon:
"Dads, the second you see your son dropping the limp wrist, you walk over there and crack that wrist. Man up. Give him a good punch. Ok?"
aCW saw nothing wrong with a different pastor who claimed he'd full on punched a kid in the chest. Maybe aCW doesn't see a problem with breaking a kid's wrist either.
These are men you'd want to see preaching to a congregation?
Guys are guys: We read each other differently than actual on stuff like this, especially with "Man up." As such, I don't 'think' we read it as literal, probably forgetting that a woman might. That said, if he literally means it, that the child should be punched? No, I'm against that and against a preacher meaning this literally. Macho shouldn't mean random acts of physical contact. I'm not into punching guys in the arm either though, so I can't speak for all males nor would I try to emasculate (take away any of their God-given masculinity).
We've covered quite a bit of area in this 2 part thread that is close to 2 years old, a subject that has generated over 13,000 posts and close to a half of a million views, and we're far from being done.
Link to part 1
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84307
Link to part 2
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90740
For those that have been following the thread, you've seen 4 things time and time again that are key to the proud and unrepentant homosexual lifestyle and the agenda that grew like a out of control cancer since homosexuality was decriminalized just over 10 years ago:
1). Infiltrating and redefining society's invaluable and important institutions. Since homosexuality was decriminalized, we've seen how the invaluable institutions of marriage and the family have been mocked by homosexuals in the name of "equality". We've also seen how these very very sick people through their evil agenda and political and cultural clout were able to enter and have a negative effect on other institutions such as the military, the media/entertainment, and youth mentor groups. I'll continue to talk about those institutions throughout part 3 of the thread, as well as go into other institutions (which I've briefly talked about, but will go into greater detail) such as education and religion.
2). The indoctrination of children and teens into accepting homosexuality as something 'normal'. By exposing toddlers and infants to homosexual 'culture' and being raised by homosexual 'parents', it starts children off at a very young age into accepting this perversion as something natural.
Two year old adopted twins of homosexuals at San Francisco's Folsom Street Fair
This indoctrination not only involves taking these innocent children to homosexual "pride parades" and festivals where all kinds of sexual debauchery are openly displayed in public, but indoctrinating them through the news media, entertainment and education.
The physical molestation of our youth has always been a big part of homosexuality as well, be it 'grooming' children into having sex with a homosexual elder, or the outright rape of the child. We've seen that the modern day "pioneers" of the homosexual movement were advocates of the pedophile organization known as the North American Man Boy Love Association, and it will be shown in the "Homosexual Pedophilia and Pederasty" segment that children have always played a major role for many of those that engage in homosexual behavior.
As seen in this Youtube video, compliments of our friend Peter LaBarbera at Americans For Truth About Homosexuality, proud and unrepentant HIV homosexual Walter Lee Hammond II has seen older homosexual males chase teenage boys "a thousand times".
http://americansfortruth.com/2014/0...would-not-let-my-teenage-sons-around-gay-men/
Homosexual activists also use the force of law to take parental rights away from those parents who want to help their sexually confused child who is suffering from same sex attraction. Drafting and passing legislation that prohibits those children from receiving therapy is yet another form of child molestation.
3). Intolerance and violence against those that speak out against homosexual behavior or it's agenda and amongst those that engage in homosexual behavior themselves. Remember that these threats and violence are often times perpetrated against Christians whose only 'crime' is that they're attempting to share the Word of God with sinners.
Chased out of the Castro
Homosexual violence and Crimes in San Francisco
Bakeries, florists and innkeepers who simply state that it goes against their Christian beliefs to cater to a faux homosexual marriage ceremony, have been fined, threatened with jail time, and ordered to attend "sensitivity training".
Professional athletes, the most recent being a football player who responded on a social network to an openly homosexual football player kissing his boyfriend with the word "horrible", was suspended, fined and sent to "sensitivity training" for his non politically correct view of homosexuality.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Sports/2014/05/20/Don-Jones-Returns-from-Sensitivity-Training
I'll continue with "violence amongst homosexuals" in part 3, showing the disproportionate amount of homosexual serial killers and the violence amongst homosexual domestic partners.
4). Disease and early death.
Throughout both part 1 and 2, reports have been shown that homosexuals are disproportionately contracting HIV/AIDS and various other sexually transmitted diseases through CDC and other medical organization studies. I've also shown why these terribly sexually confused people contract these preventable diseases, but will go into much greater detail in a segment entitled "Disease and early death amongst homosexuals".
"We know that the law is good if one uses it properly."
1 Timothy 1:8
Let's start using it properly people and put an end to this insanity.