Originally posted by Whispers
This is only part of the problem though. Quite often when a person goes through bad trauma or some majorly negative experience, they are often left with a deep sense of compassion for others going through the same. For example, the victim of rape becomes a rape counsellor. The victim of domestic abuse spends her spare time helping others in the same boat. Although this does not always happen, quite often it does. Only by going through an experience can we truly know what another may be feeling when they experience the same. The pastor knows first hand what it is like to be caught in sin. He has sinned and although reformed, he STILL falls short of the glory of God, something we all need to remember. As the Pastor knows what it is like to be caught in sin, he obviously wants to help others that are suffering as well. He wants to do God's work and bring others into a relationship with Jesus. That is to be commended and respected. What I question, is his methodology for trying to bring people to Christ and walk away from sin.
At root we are all children of God. No matter what we have done, God offers us a promise that if we accept the freely offered hand of salvation, then it is ours. For a sinner to get to the stage where he takes the freely offered hand, he may have to go through a complex and possibly a long-winding road, entailing mental stress, deep reflection and hopefully contact with Christians living and allowing God's light to shine through them. He sees the happiness, well being and contentment of Christians and wonders why he does not feel the same. The example set to him, can lead him to or away from truth.
Lets say that one day he switches on his radio and the Pastor's show is on air. He listens to the Pastor holding forth on sinners, homosexuals and all other sorts of things. As he sits there listening to this prominent Christian, he notices an atmosphere of hatred and aggression underlying the words spoken. Many things are criticised and a distinct lack of compassion is shown and displayed during the course of the show. He hears the years of hellfire and brimstone from his church youth again, and switches that radio off. He never listens to that show again.
At some point in the future, just like everyone of us including me, the Pastor will stand before God. Whilst I am sure that he has done many good things in his life, I cannot help but feel that God will not look kindly upon a man who seems to spend a lot of his time knocking others. Just because he has reformed, does not give him the right to attack others. Sitting in chair passing judgement is relatively easy. Getting out in the world and trying to bring the word of Christ to the sinners is a different matter entirely. Remember we are all disciples of and therefore ambassadors of Christ. If you tell people you are a Christian, you have a duty to God to represent him in the right light to others. Just something to think about...
Whispers, that is just too funny.
I am a Christian because of Bob Enyart. I originally started watching his show primarily for entertainment's sake--I used to get a big kick out of what a jerk Bob Enyart was. He was much more entertaining than a couple of my other favorite comedy shows--Ron Parsley and Benny Hinn.
Bob was really offensive. He mocked and criticized many things that I felt were perfectly OK, like sexual immorality, atheism (I was one at the time) and abortion. Then after the "Bible verse" warning, he'd show you in the Bible where God said how disgusting these things were.
A funny thing happened. I started to realize how disgusting the things I did and believed in were to God, if He existed. How utterly revolting my lifestyle was. I started thinking about how really evil it is to kill an unborn kid. I began to see "victimless" sexual crimes in terms of families destroyed and diseases being spread throughout society. Drugs in terms of babies born addicted, and kids neglected because daddy and mommy are stoned. My views were undergoing a gradual change.
I still didn't believe in God, but I was seeing consistancy in the Bible for the first time. And the Christ Bob Enyart talked about wasn't the puerile effeminate Christ I had learned about in church and Sunday school so many years earlier. I was hearing about a different Christ--one who spoke His mind, who didn't just stand around beaming benignly and saying pleasant things. I hauled out a Bible--yes, I had one lying around--and I started to look at things Bob had pointed out, and he was right. The stuff I had been taught that made me reject Christianity as the domain of the do-gooders and mentally challenged..it wasn't in there.
I kept hearing about "The Plot" on the show. After deliberating for a month, I kicked $50 for the Plot just to see what it was. At this point, the Christian religion wasn't looking as bad to me as it had. Of course, I could never do all the things you're required to do to go to heaven--never swear, never have a good time, and have your butt planted in a pew every Sunday. But Bob made a lot of sense most of the time, so I figured it would be a pretty good read.
I got "The Plot" early one afternoon 4 years ago. I couldn't put it down. Pieces started falling into place. I could see the stupid misconceptions I had explained, and I saw the Christian faith in it's entirety, the interrelation of the different sections of the Bible, the unity, logic in dealing with criminal acts, just a deluge of information. I think I read for about 14 hours straight. Early that morning I accepted Christ as savior. I had never seen Him, but He had been there all along--hidden by layers of man-made religion.
Whispers, if someone hears Bob Enyart and gets offended, then great. They need to be offended. They need to become so offended that they stop doing the revolting thing they're doing or thinking. And I don't know how much you know about Bob Enyart--probably not a lot--he criticizes the way he used to live and points it out to people as evil, and tells the consequences of his actions as an example so that others might avoid the pain he put himself through. He doesn't sugar coat, and he's not a hypocrite.
And as for that poor hypothetical homo listening to the radio that gets so hurt and offended by Bob Enyart blasting him--Good! He needs it! All of the nicey-nice people who tell him that Christ died for him and leave out the other part--that God says homosexuals should be put to death, and that they're vile and disgusting to God--those nice concilliatory Christians are not helping that poor homo change his lifestyle. They are enablers. And they misrepresent God. They are either bait-and-switch salesmen, or so deceived in and of themselves that they simply do not know truth from lie.
I had laughed at the too pure for this world Christians that tried to win me over to their gelded vision of God for years. You can criticize Bob Enyart all you want, but the fact remains--I would not be a Christian if not for his attacks on the stupidity I did and believed.