Who are the Children of Promise, the Seed ?


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No the sad truth of dispensational arminianism is that they cannot even admit they are sinners. Jesus came into the world to save sinners not righteous people! The apostle Paul said he was the chief of sinners and are you better than him? The sweet little innocent baby who never hurt anyone is a child of sin and unless his parents place him under grace by their faith in Christ he will grow up and become assimilated into the world.

If Paul was the chiefest of sinners, as you seem to understand that text, then I'm a monkey's uncle. If you think your children are saved because you are, and your unsaved neighbor's children are damned, then you believe God is a respecter of persons. Children are not responsible for the sins of their fathers, and we are all saved individually.

I'm not sure where you get the idea that some cannot admit they WERE sinners. Check the tense....such were some of you. Do you hang onto the the title of sinner because you reject Christ's work on the cross, or what?


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The Children of the promise.

Romans 9:4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the
glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of
God, and the promises; 5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as
concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever.
Amen. 6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they
are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
7 Neither, because they are the
seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be
called. 8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are
not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for
the seed.

The message of this passage of scripture is simple, clear and
unmistakable. The earthly nation of Israel are not God’s people. That is
plainly stated in verses 7 and 8. God’s people are called here the seed
and the children of promise and being a Jew does not make you one of
those. Only those who are chosen in Christ (the Seed) from before the
foundation of the world are God’s people. Galatians 3:16 Now to Abraham
and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of
many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. Galatians 3:29
And if ye be Christ‘s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according
to the promise.

All of the promises of blessing in Christ are made to the heirs of the
promise, not earthly Israel, but spiritual Israel. Nothing could be more
plainly revealed in the word of God. Many consider the earthly nation of
Israel to have some kind of divine protection and favor from God. Let me
be clear about this: If you reject the Lord Jesus Christ being a Jew
will not keep you from suffering God’s eternal wrath in Hell, and if you
receive Him, believe on Him, being a Gentile will in no way hinder you
from enjoying all spiritual blessings in Him. The favor of God is in
Christ, not in bloodlines or family trees.- Chris Cunningham.