ECT "Things that are different" included Gentiles

Danoh

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Paul defined the wall.

Nope - Moses did.

It's end result in men?

The exact same enmity between Jew and Gentile that the Law could not but set off in man towards God because the Law was weak through the flesh.

Put away, Moore, et al and read Romans 5 and 7, and Galatians some time :chuckle:
 

dodge

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No matter how hard you plug your ears to the facts, they are still the facts. The middle wall of partition was handwritten.

Mar 15:38
The curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom.


Heb 10:20
By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
 

tetelestai

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The middle wall of partition was handwritten.

How about the Great Wall of China? Is that real, or is that also "handwritten"?

The Berlin Wall?

Your Acts 9/Bullingerism has made you unable to think rationally.
 

tetelestai

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See my long winded answer in post #1019, on...

I read it, and it doesn't answer my question.

Do you believe that there was a literal Middle Wall of Partition in the temple, in the first century, that separated the Gentiles from the Jews?
 

john w

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Why would Paul bring up the wall, then say "EVEN the law of commandments contained in ordinances", if the wall was the law of commandments contained in ordinances.

That makes no sense.
Says the admitted, on record, Jew hater, anti-Semite, and sodomite, weasel Craigie.
 

tetelestai

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Philippians 2:8 (KJV)

Nice try, but simple English 101 proves you wrong again.

(Phil 2:8 KJV) And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.


As we see above, the word "death" appears before the word "even", and after the word "even". Thus the word "even" in Phil 2:8 is used to emphasize what kind of death.

Paul didn't say "The middle wall of partition, even the middle wall of partition that was the law of commandments contained in ordinances"

Paul was making a list, then said "even" the law of commandments contained in ordinances, after the first two things on his list.

Also, Paul listed enmity between the wall and the ordinances. In Phil 2:8, there is no other item between "obedient unto death" and "death of the cross".
 

SaulToPaul

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Nice try, but simple English 101 proves you wrong again.

(Phil 2:8 KJV) And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.


As we see above, the word "death" appears before the word "even", and after the word "even". Thus the word "even" in Phil 2:8 is used to emphasize what kind of death.

Paul didn't say "The middle wall of partition, even the middle wall of partition that was the law of commandments contained in ordinances"

Paul was making a list, then said "even" the law of commandments contained in ordinances, after the first two things on his list.

Also, Paul listed enmity between the wall and the ordinances. In Phil 2:8, there is no other item between "obedient unto death" and "death of the cross".

:chuckle:
 

SaulToPaul

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Eph 2
14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;

15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:



Not difficult. The wall, the enmity, the ordinances, all the same thing.
 

tetelestai

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:chuckle:

Paul was making a point that the Jews were no longer able to keep the Gentiles from having the same access to God that the Jews did.

You really should do a study on the Inner Court, what took place there, and who was allowed in.
 

tetelestai

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Not difficult. The wall, the enmity, the ordinances, all the same thing.

Nope.

Three different things.

What they had in common was the division between Jew and Gentile.

Now that there was no difference between Jew and Gentile for those in Christ, the three things no longer existed for those in Christ.

The wall and the ordinances caused enmity.
 

john w

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Exactly what I expected from you.

It's your standard response when you can't defend your premise.

No matter how hard you and heir try, Paul was referencing the actual wall that was in the temple.

Paul was making a point that the Jews were no longer able to keep the Gentiles from having the same access to God that the Jews did.

You really should do a study on the Inner Court, what took place there, and who was allowed in.

Don't you believe Paul, anti-Semite Craigie? You taught us that. Watch this one...


Don't you believe the bible, Wimpy? Why do you try to make the bible fit your "man made invention" of AD 70-ism/Preterist, Jew hater Craigie?

And get a job, infidel. Don't you believe Paul, weasel? Simple English, and one verse, refutes you:



1 Timothy 5:8 KJV

But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

Why do you deny the faith, Craigie? Maybe someone else in the "invented" AD 70-ism/Preterist camp, can answer, since Craigie won't/cannot.No matter how hard you and your fellow Preterist con artists try, you cannot defend your "man made" "invention"/"theory."


We learned that from you, loser.


This, too:You really should do a study on the bible.
 
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