ECT The TRUE way to be holy

Totton Linnet

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There are holy con artists around, they are like the scammers who try to sell you your own car....it already is yours.

But you won't get in and drive it until you KNOW it is yours, here is the key.
The only way you can find out what you are is by reading it in God's word...reading and BELIEVING it.

God said you are salt...BELIEVE that
God said you are light...BELIEVE that
God said you are more than conqueror through Him who loves you...BELIEVE that
Go said you have overcome the devil...BELIEVE that.
God said He hath made you worthy.
God said you are His beloved children

These conners go around telling everybody they are sinners, no good, heading for destruction...they want to sell you holiness, make you their little disciples...glory in your flesh.

"For by one offering Christ hath perfected forever them that are sanctified"


This is for every single person who has been saved Christ is our Saviour and our Sanctification.

 

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There are holy con artists around, they are like the scammers who try to sell you your own car....it already is yours.

But you won't get in and drive it until you KNOW it is yours, here is the key.
The only way you can find out what you are is by reading it in God's word...reading and BELIEVING it.

God said you are salt...BELIEVE that
God said you are light...BELIEVE that
God said you are more than conqueror through Him who loves you...BELIEVE that
Go said you have overcome the devil...BELIEVE that.

These conners go around telling everybody they are sinners, no good, heading for destruction...they want to sell you holiness, make you their little disciples...glory in your flesh.

"For by one offering Christ hath perfected forever them that are sanctified"


This is for every single person who has been saved Christ is our Saviour and our Sanctification.

BELIEVE that. Amen !!!
 

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God said you are salt...BELIEVE that

Either we are or we are not.

Your believing will not change that.

However Jesus warns us--

Mat 5:13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

Something must be required of us.


God said you are light...BELIEVE that


Mat 5:14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
Mat 5:15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
Mat 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

MAD doctrine claims the Lord requires no works but Jesus said---

Joh 15:2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
Joh 15:3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
Joh 15:4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
Joh 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
Joh 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

ETC.
 

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There are holy con artists around, they are like the scammers who try to sell you your own car....it already is yours.

But you won't get in and drive it until you KNOW it is yours, here is the key.
The only way you can find out what you are is by reading it in God's word...reading and BELIEVING it.

God said you are salt...BELIEVE that
God said you are light...BELIEVE that
God said you are more than conqueror through Him who loves you...BELIEVE that
Go said you have overcome the devil...BELIEVE that.
God said He hath made you worthy.
God said you are His beloved children

These conners go around telling everybody they are sinners, no good, heading for destruction...they want to sell you holiness, make you their little disciples...glory in your flesh.

"For by one offering Christ hath perfected forever them that are sanctified"


This is for every single person who has been saved Christ is our Saviour and our Sanctification.



Sanctification is a process of making Jesus LORD of your life. It has a beginning and and end.
 

Totton Linnet

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It ISN'T a process any more than salvation is a process, it is a life to be lived, yes maintained, we can let it slip bye and bye. That is WE who change.

I am confident that He who began a good work in us will carry it through to completion unto the day of Christ...there are no ifs or buts, no gaps.

The only question is if we will avail ourselves of it daily, if we let things slip it is sometimes nigh to impossible to recover. But the Good Shepherd has a rod as well as a staff. If we allow the Christ life to sleep in us as it were, it will be like when Christ slept in the boat and the storm arose and great waves threatened to sink them.

But there is always a way back for us, it is always there.

We become practised with the things of God as we go along, we learn His ways, what pleases and what displeases.

None of these things affect in any way our position, God never takes back what He has given freely....THAT is the lesson the conditionalists never learn.

If it were ever given on condition then it is simply not a gift of grace.

YOU have heard of Swaggart, you know he was living treacherously while flogging everyone else [as is the wont of all holiness preachers of that ilk] yet God was still using him, he could still preach and win souls, mighty miracles still took place under his ministry...Brazil was shaken....then his treachery was found out, it had been going on for years.

Now his ministry plummeted, now he was put to shame and everything failed HOW? Had God changed? no but the people could no longer believe him....it was his integrity or lack of it with the PEOPLE that caused his ministry to fail...he is not the only one.

You have to understand that it is all too possible to operate in the gifts of the Holy Spirit while living a treacherous lifestyle....but woe to the one who does it...America is a veritable graveyard of such preachers...a lot of them are on TV.

Such is the trust God invests in His servants. But God will only confirm His word through any of them, if they start preaching a false gospel then the lack of unction will soon become apparent.
 

andyc

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There are holy con artists around, they are like the scammers who try to sell you your own car....it already is yours.

But you won't get in and drive it until you KNOW it is yours, here is the key.
The only way you can find out what you are is by reading it in God's word...reading and BELIEVING it.

God said you are salt...BELIEVE that
God said you are light...BELIEVE that
God said you are more than conqueror through Him who loves you...BELIEVE that
Go said you have overcome the devil...BELIEVE that.
God said He hath made you worthy.
God said you are His beloved children

These conners go around telling everybody they are sinners, no good, heading for destruction...they want to sell you holiness, make you their little disciples...glory in your flesh.

"For by one offering Christ hath perfected forever them that are sanctified"


This is for every single person who has been saved Christ is our Saviour and our Sanctification.


Yup

Jesus referred to the Holy Spirit as a comforter / counselor.
The idea here is for the Holy Spirit to bring people to their own conclusion that they need to be a greater witness. When the church thrashes out judgement and condemnation to where people feel beat up about who they are, this is not God.
When people have an inner desire to let go of a particular sin or habit, this is most certainly a sign that the comforter has been allowed to work within someone, and gently bring that person to their own conclusion that it's time to undergo further sanctification.
 

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It ISN'T a process any more than salvation is a process,

It is a process given by invitation to the born again child of God for to make a son out of him by learning the ways of God (John 17:3) and then onward to where he becomes a father himself who begets sons for THE Father. Just the way Jesus did it. Read John 1:12 and then 1John2.
If it were ever given on condition then it is simply not a gift of grace.

Let him who enters into the process first count the cost. WHY?? Look it up.
 

andyc

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Something that does need emphasizing is the fact that faith requires an inner war against carnality. Our spiritual man is constantly under attack. For example, those who live in Paris right now are afraid. This fear is an attack, a demonic attack.
Those who have not learned how to let the peace of God reign in their hearts, will respond in fear. Fear is an enemy of faith.

Prayer, fasting, meditation on the word etc, are essential to grow in faith in order to deal with what life, the world, the flesh, and the devil throws at us, in order to respond as people who are not shaken and do not faint.
 

Totton Linnet

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The lesson is don't put your faith in preachers, in ministries, even if they are mighty in power...keep your eyes upon Jesus, learn to discern what is of Him and what is of the flesh...stick rigidly to the word.

But for heavens sake don't put your trust in yourself.....don't get all introvert, cutting yourself off [because you are so holy] hermitizing yourself.

Holiness will make you love people the more, but your trust is not in people but God.
 

Totton Linnet

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It is a process given by invitation to the born again child of God for to make a son out of him by learning the ways of God (John 17:3) and then onward to where he becomes a father himself who begets sons for THE Father. Just the way Jesus did it. Read John 1:12 and then 1John2.


Let him who enters into the process first count the cost. WHY?? Look it up.

yeah you's stubborn and won't learn...you've been at it above 40 years.....your generation of Pentecostals is the generation which let the testimony fall.
 

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yeah you's stubborn and won't learn...you've been at it above 40 years.....your generation of Pentecostals is the generation which let the testimony fall.

Don't just run off at your mental mouth, put up or shut up. Read the passages and make an intelligent, if you are even able to, comment.
 

Totton Linnet

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When Peter got baptized with the Holy Ghost and power he was holy see, he was straight out in the street preaching. When Paul got baptized in the Holy Ghost he was holy, he was straight out preaching.

THAT is the bible way....process is CR's way

Nobody wants it, that's why your generation of Pentecostals produced the Elvis's and the Michael Jacksons and a WHOLE host of lewd acts.

Your generation failed
 

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When Peter got baptized with the Holy Ghost and power he was holy see, he was straight out in the street preaching. When Paul got baptized in the Holy Ghost he was holy, he was straight out preaching.

THAT is the bible way....process is CR's way

Jesus was thirty years old [learning] before being sent into the world!
Peter was 3 1/2 years with Jesus before given the unction to function!
Paul was set upon by Jesus and spent 3+ years in the desert learning God's ways. Read your Bible again, for the first time.
 

Totton Linnet

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Jesus was thirty years old [learning] before being sent into the world!
Peter was 3 1/2 years with Jesus before given the unction to function!
Paul was set upon by Jesus and spent 3+ years in the desert learning God's ways. Read your Bible again, for the first time.

That's what I told you Peter was 30 seconds after the Holy Ghost fell before he was out in the street preaching.

Yours is the generation which swapped evangelism for "grow in grace" pow wows....America and Europe were RIPE but you failed them
 
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