As evidenced in God's answer back to Jacob, "why do you ask my name?" But since you insist, I'll spell this out you :
You really need to stop assuming. Before you address my points actually try and sit down and think of using reasoning where you have not assumed the reason the reasons behind an action. Unless a reason behind an is clearly stated any thought or teaching as to why it that action happened it an assumption.
In regards to what you said your main assumption is this:
1. That Jacob had doubt, nowhere does it show this in the verse, you assumed he had doubt and use this assumption as reasoning behind why he asked the question. When you remove the assumption and just read the scripture for what it says we have Jacob, who wrestled with God, who knew Gods name, asking God what he name was. Again,
take scripture for what it says and not what you want it to mean. Does the verse state or hint that Jacob had doubt that the Angel was God?
Your second point does not answer my question of why Jacob asked the man what his name was even though he told him he was God. How does Jacob being named Israel explain a thing as to why Jacob asked God what his name was even though he already knew it? It doesn't explain anything, this is you just trying to make your point seem more valid by adding in more points by stating unnecessary stuff.
3. The answer is self-evident from the answer he received. Why do you first ask for my blessing, knowing what that implies, and then ask for my name? You already know. You knew to ask the blessing, you know the meaning of the name that was given you.
Again, asking for a blessing does not imply that person whom you're asking a blessing from is God, this is an assumption made by yourself and cannot be backed up by scripture. As I've already shown blessing can be imparted by anyone. Again when you say
"You knew to ask the blessing, you know the meaning of the name that was given you" this is an assumption, nothing in the texts states this is what the angel was thinking you merely insert your thoughts and make it the angels thoughts, this is not how exegesis should be done.
Your reasoning also does not seem reasonable, can one reasonably believe that Jacob believed this man was God because hence the reason why he asked him for a blessing, once than man makes known to Jacob he is God and then blesses him Jacob suddenly has a lack of faith that he is God, and thus asks him what his name was, then after the Man doesn't answer him and simply states "why do you ask me my name" Jacob suddenly decides to start believing that the Man was God again.
Jacob was not a yo-yo, if he had enough faith to literally wrestle with God he's not going to change his mind after God merely touches him to which causes a dislocation and then invokes a blessing. Your explanation does not seem plausible.
4. The answer is self-evident from Jacob's understanding of what happened, for he named the place Peniel.
This point does not answer my question as to why Jacob asked the angel/man what his name was, this point is the very reason why I asked the question in the first place. Again, stop trying to add meat to your argument by stating unnecessary things.
NWL, you and I both know why this point is being debated. The JW theology has a vital assumption that God cannot and will not ever make personal appearance before men or on this earth. I'm telling you that that specific assumption is not biblical, it's not gospel, nor was it the understanding of the Hebrew patriarchs.
Lol, you use the word assumption like you understand its definition. We do not assume that God cannot make personal appearance before men, I believe that if God wanted to he could. But as the scriptures state, "no man has" and if they did no man would live. You simply have no right to say I'm assuming these things when scripture plainly states
"no man has seen God" John 1:18 and that
"no man can see me [God] and live" Exo 33:20, this is taking scripture for what it says and therefore
not an assumption.
I've just given four numbered points as to why Jacob knew he had wrestled with the LORD in the flesh. I'm sure he didn't know why he was randomly attacked at first, but by the end he knows enough to ask for his blessing in faith, the name that is given him identifies him as one who has power with God and prevailed, the being he wrestled dismisses his request that he name himself after all that because it is obviously unnecessary now, and Jacob sums up the event as "I have seen God, and lived."
You listed 4 points that don't show anything relevant, mainly because your initial view was an assumed one. So far I've seen nothing that would explain why Jacob asked what the mans name was other than a typical want to know his name. By all means expand on your points, just don't include assumptions.
