The Trinity

[God's Truth]

No.

Moses is read in the synagogues every Sabbath from ancient generations or times. I read, study, observe, keep, and teach the Torah. Yeshua instructed me to keep and teach the Commandments. I am not under the Law.

The Torah says to go to the temple and present yourself to the priest and bring an animal to sacrifice.

YOU DO NO SUCH THING. No one who claims to be a Jew obeys the old law. They can't obey the old law, though they might say they do. There is no way because the earthly temple is gone, the priests are no more, and there is only one temple now, one priest, and one sacrifice once and for all.
You can't try to say you are doing right by obeying parts of the law---because the law went all together. Either you obeyed all the law or you are fake and are picking and choosing what you feel like or what you can do.

That is NOT obeying the Torah. You do NOT obey the Torah. NO ONE CAN ANYMORE. Those who say they do have made for themselves a way to hang onto the old, the old that is NO LONGER EVEN THERE. Not a blood relative to Abraham, and not a person wanting to be a Jew can obey the old law anymore. It is a farce if they say they do.

Uh, uh but I got circumcised and I observe special days and I don't eat diary with meat from a cow... That is NOT the extent of the old law! You cannot pick and choose what you want to obey or what you feel you can obey with adjustments. God's words must be obeyed EXACTLY. You cannot do that, no Jew or Gentiles can anymore.

 

[Jacob]

Jacob, either you are so ignorant or you are deliberately playing games and trying to cause confusion about yourself. You do not even know that the congregation you say you belong to IS A GROUP and HAS A NAME when you said no to those things and denied it; and you denied being Messianic and yet, they are MESSIANIC, and that they do in fact call it the 'New Testament', and that the New Testament is scripture---things YOU SAID you don't believe and they don't believe. What in the world is going on with you?

I am a Jew. My eating habits are Orthodox. I do not mix meat and dairy in the same meal. I believe that the men should read the Torah. I believe Yeshua is the Messiah. I do not agree with all Messianic doctrine. Therefore, I am not Messianic. Unless all a person needs to do to be Messianic is believe that Yeshua is the Messiah. I do not know about what you are seeking to accomplish. You are saying things that are false or I do not know them to be true. I go to Congregation, go to the Congregation, attend the Congregation, but it is not a group. I can answer for my beliefs. I do not know why you are asking about other people when you are talking with or communicating with me. The New Covenant Scriptures are sometimes called the New Testament or the New Testament Scriptures. But you need to learn what the New Covenant is. I am not playing games or causing confusion about myself. I am not anyone other than myself.

Shalom.

Jacob

 

[Jacob]

The Torah says to go to the temple and present yourself to the priest and bring an animal to sacrifice.

YOU DO NO SUCH THING. No one who claims to be a Jew obeys the old law. They can't obey the old law, though they might say they do. There is no way because the earthly temple is gone, the priests are no more, and there is only one temple now, one priest, and one sacrifice once and for all.
You can't try to say you are doing right by obeying parts of the law---because the law went all together. Either you obeyed all the law or you are fake and are picking and choosing what you feel like or what you can do.

That is NOT obeying the Torah. You do NOT obey the Torah. NO ONE CAN ANYMORE. Those who say they do have made for themselves a way to hang onto the old, the old that is NO LONGER EVEN THERE. Not a blood relative to Abraham, and not a person wanting to be a Jew can obey the old law anymore. It is a farce if they say they do.

There are commandments to be observed with a temple and without a temple. Without a temple we are to build a temple.

 

[lifeisgood]

No, not like what Peter did then. Get a hold of yourself. Peter tried to stop the sacrifice. You are the one ensnared by Satan to preach Jesus' words were not for us.

Exactly as Peter did then. For you want me to take my faith away from WHO Jesus is and WHAT He did and follow YOUR FALSE DOCTRINE that you OBEY ALL of Jesus' commandments, EXACTLY. Get thee behind me Satan!

 

[God's Truth]

I am a Jew. My eating habits are Orthodox. I do not mix meat and dairy in the same meal. I believe that the men should read the Torah. I believe Yeshua is the Messiah. I do not agree with all Messianic doctrine. Therefore, I am not Messianic. Unless all a person needs to do to be Messianic is believe that Yeshua is the Messiah. I do not know about what you are seeking to accomplish. You are saying things that are false or I do not know them to be true. I go to Congregation, go to the Congregation, attend the Congregation, but it is not a group. I can answer for my beliefs. I do not know why you are asking about other people when you are talking with or communicating with me. The New Covenant Scriptures are sometimes called the New Testament or the New Testament Scriptures. But you need to learn what the New Covenant is. I am not playing games or causing confusion about myself. I am not anyone other than myself.

Shalom.

Jacob

You are so definitely playing games. YOU SAID the place you go to has no name. Then you say it does. I asked what the group's name is, but you said you do not belong to a group. But a congregation is a group! You say you are not Messianic. However, the congregation you say you belong to says they are Messianic. Jacob, you can't say you belong to them, yet go against them. You also said you don't believe that the New Testament is the New Testament! You said it is not scripture! Even the congregation you said you belonged to says differently! You remind me of why I said I would not debate you anymore.

 

[lifeisgood]

I do not agree with all Messianic doctrine so I have said that I am not Messianic.

Then what are you doing in a MESSIANIC CONGREGATION when you do not believe in it.

And just out of curiosity, What are you doing in a Christian forum when you say that you REJECTED being a Christian (as if that was possible in the BOC age)? Trying to make a Christian proselytize? And then what? Follow what you say you do not believe in but you congregate with anyway?

You should really evaluate what you REALLY believe in and then you would not bring confusion to what you profess you believe.

 

[God's Truth]

Exactly as Peter did then. For you want me to take my faith away from WHO Jesus is and WHAT He did and follow YOUR FALSE DOCTRINE that you OBEY ALL of Jesus' commandments, EXACTLY. Get thee behind me Satan!

We have to obey God exactly.

Jesus died for our sins HE DID NOT DIE TO HIS WORDS that he spoke while he walked the earth!

 

[popsthebuilder]

There are commandments to be observed with a temple and without a temple. Without a temple we are to build a temple.

The temple of GOD is your physical vessel/ body as a believer in the Messiah....the Christ....the Spirit of GOD that indeed writes the laws upon your heart which you are to try to follow to the fullest of your extent which really isn't limited to your capacities at all as you have given yourself to GOD and the Messiah will guide all your steps and remove the hurdles from ahead of your path if you believe and live in belief of the manifold gifts and blessings of GOD for the Glory of GOD and the sake of all.

peace

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[God's Truth]

The temple of GOD is your physical vessel/ body as a believer in the Messiah....the Christ....the Spirit of GOD that indeed writes the laws upon your heart which you are to try to follow to the fullest of your extent which really isn't limited to your capacities at all as you have given yourself to GOD and the Messiah will guide all your steps and remove the hurdles from ahead of your path if you believe and live in belief of the manifold gifts and blessings of GOD for the Glory of GOD and the sake of all.

peace

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EXACTLY.

 

[lifeisgood]

There are commandments to be observed with a temple and without a temple. Without a temple we are to build a temple.

Oh, so you pick and choose what YOU will follow from the Law. And what do you do with the warning from the Law that says that if you fail BUT ONE commandment of the Law, the Law is going to KILL YOU (you will die in your sins).

You, Jacob, are NOT following the Law. You, Jacob, CANNOT follow the Law. For all that is needed to follow the Law has been destroyed.

You, Jacob, should really, REALLY evaluate what you REALLY believe in and then you would not bring confusion to what you profess you believe.

 

[God's Truth]

There is no way a blood relative of Abraham can obey the old law.

There is no way a Gentile can either.

It is now gone.

If anyone wants to obey God, then they have to acknowledge a change to that old law.

They have to accept the new priest, and the new guidelines of the NEW COVENANT.

Jesus is our High Priest.

Jesus is our Temple.

We are the Temple.

Jesus is the Sacrificial Lamb of God.

Jesus is the one who circumcises.

Jesus is the only special day that needs to be observed.

All those special days were about Jesus.

We do not have to observe special days anymore.

We only have to observe Jesus all day and every day.

Special diets and various external washings MEAN NOTHING FOR SALVATION ANYMORE.

Because Jesus makes us clean and we are all the same to him, inside and out.

 

[lifeisgood]

We have to obey God exactly.

Which you do NOT OBEY EXACTLY but keep on professing you do, similarly to what Jacob is saying, and you trying to convince him that he is wrong and you, gt, are right. Ironic wouldn't you say.

Jesus died for our sins HE DID NOT DIE TO HIS WORDS that he spoke while he walked the earth!

And His words were spoken to the lost sheep of the house of gt. Good to know.

 

[God's Truth]

Which you do NOT OBEY EXACTLY but keep on professing you do, similarly to what Jacob is saying, and you trying to convince him that he is wrong and you, gt, are right. Ironic wouldn't you say.



And His words were spoken to the lost sheep of the house of gt. Good to know.

Jesus is the Lord of ALL and his words are LIFE FOR ALL and not death for others like me because I obey him.

You are ensnared by the devil to accuse as he does and preach like he does that we don't have to obey Jesus' words, the CREATOR's words.

 

[Jacob]

You are so definitely playing games. YOU SAID the place you go to has no name. Then you say it does. I asked what the group's name is, but you said you do not belong to a group. But a congregation is a group! You say you are not Messianic. However, the congregation you say you belong to says they are Messianic. Jacob, you can't say you belong to them, yet go against them. You also said you don't believe that the New Testament is the New Testament! You said it is not scripture! Even the congregation you said you belonged to says differently! You remind me of why I said I would not debate you anymore.

Everything you are saying is false or based on misunderstanding. The only groups I belong to are online. I did not say that the place I go to has no name. A congregation is not a group. Who do you believe that I have gone against? I cannot think of anyone. Did I say that I belong to a congregation? I do not remember doing so. Maybe they say that I belong. I do not know. The New Covenant is sometimes called the New Testament. It is in Yeshua HaMashiach, Yeshua Messiah, Jesus the Christ. It was promised by God through the prophet Jeremiah. Often Matthew through Revelation is referred to as the New Covenant or the New Testament.

 

[God's Truth]

Oh, so you pick and choose what YOU will follow from the Law. And what do you do with the warning from the Law that says that if you fail BUT ONE commandment of the Law, the Law is going to KILL YOU (you will die in your sins).

You, Jacob, are NOT following the Law. You, Jacob, CANNOT follow the Law. For all that is needed to follow the Law has been destroyed.

You, Jacob, should really, REALLY evaluate what you REALLY believe in and then you would not bring confusion to what you profess you believe.

You don't even know that which you profess to know.

You don't have any idea.

 

[lifeisgood]

Jesus is the Lord of ALL and his words are LIFE FOR ALL and not death for others like me because I obey him.

You, gt, DO NOT OBEY Him at all, even though you fill your mouth that you do.

You are ensnared by the devil to accuse as he does and preach like he does that we don't have to obey Jesus' words, the CREATOR's words.

I'll say to you what Jesus said to Peter: Get thee behind me Satan!

 

[God's Truth]

Everything you are saying is false or based on misunderstanding. The only groups I belong to are online. I did not say that the place I go to has no name. A congregation is not a group. Who do you believe that I have gone against? I cannot think of anyone. Did I say that I belong to a congregation? I do not remember doing so. Maybe they say that I belong. I do not know. The New Covenant is sometimes called the New Testament. It is in Yeshua HaMashiach, Yeshua Messiah, Jesus the Christ. It was promised by God through the prophet Jeremiah. Often Matthew through Revelation is referred to as the New Covenant or the New Testament.

You are a mess and I am having no part of your deliberate lies. YOU DID say you met up with people. You did say they were NOT Messianic. YOU DID SAY THEY WERE NOT A GROUP and that they did NOT have a name for their group You did say they did not believe Matthew to Revelation was NOT the NEW and not the scriptures! You are a dishonest person and I pray that you repent and get help.

 

[lifeisgood]

You don't even know that which you profess to know.

You don't have any idea.

Jesus said: Get thee behind me Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns.

 

[Jacob]

Then what are you doing in a MESSIANIC CONGREGATION when you do not believe in it.

And just out of curiosity, What are you doing in a Christian forum when you say that you REJECTED being a Christian (as if that was possible in the BOC age)? Trying to make a Christian proselytize? And then what? Follow what you say you do not believe in but you congregate with anyway?

You should really evaluate what you REALLY believe in and then you would not bring confusion to what you profess you believe.

I do not know what you are talking about. There is diversity of belief in the body of Christ, but there is only one way to the Father, Jesus.

I post in the Religion Forum here. I am a Jew. I accept the TaNaK and Matthew through Revelation. I accept Yeshua as the Messiah.

Shalom.

Jacob

 

[God's Truth]

You, gt, DO NOT OBEY Him at all, even though you fill your mouth that you do.



I'll say to you what Jesus said to Peter: Get thee behind me Satan!

You are an accuser like Satan. You falsely accuse me that I do not obey. Jesus' commands are light, easy, and not burdensome. But you say they are so difficult and heavy and burdensome that no one can obey. You preach the OPPOSITE of the words of God and you sound like a worker for Satan.

Jesus says obey. You say anyone who says that they do is a liar.