The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

Hoping

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I dont see your beliefs in scripture.
You don't see repentance from sin in scripture?
How about Luke 24:47..."And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem."
That remission of sins, in His name, occurs at our baptism into Christ and into His death and burial. (Acts 2:38, Rom 6:3-7)
The Jesus I serve didnt just make Salvation possible, He actually saved them He died for by putting away their sins, they are all gone ! Heb 9:26
26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
He did it by the sacrifice of Himself !
I agree completely.
Thanks be to God for allowing us to take part in that redemption from past sins.
Your POV seems to leave men out of the equation.
We have our part to do too.
 

beloved57

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You don't see repentance from sin in scripture?
How about Luke 24:47..."And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem."
That remission of sins, in His name, occurs at our baptism into Christ and into His death and burial. (Acts 2:38, Rom 6:3-7)

I agree completely.
Thanks be to God for allowing us to take part in that redemption from past sins.
Your POV seems to leave men out of the equation.
We have our part to do too.
Christs death provides repentance to them He died for, thats why His death is a saving death. You preach a false jesus that requires your part to do, the Jesus I preach did it all, all that it took to save His People.
 

beloved57

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Christ did so much more than dying for sin and making Salvation possible or available to all mankind, thats such a false teaching, However what He did do for them He died for, Gods Elect, He absolutely redeemed them unto God, by His Blood observe Rev 5:9

9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

To be redeemed to God is Salvation, or why the New Song ?
 

Hoping

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Christs death provides repentance to them He died for, thats why His death is a saving death. You preach a false jesus that requires your part to do, the Jesus I preach did it all, all that it took to save His People.
That doesn't ring true.
Men must turn from one master, (sin), in order to serve the real Master.
No man can serve two masters. (Matt 6:24)
 

Hoping

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Christ did so much more than dying for sin and making Salvation possible or available to all mankind, thats such a false teaching, However what He did do for them He died for, Gods Elect, He absolutely redeemed them unto God, by His Blood observe Rev 5:9

9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

To be redeemed to God is Salvation, or why the New Song ?
Too bad not all will elect to submit to Him.
 

beloved57

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Christs saving death is saving/salvation because it gives life, and that more abundantly. Jn 10:10-11

10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they[Sheep] might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.

Notice in Vs 10 that Jesus says specifically of His Sheep, that the reason why He came into the world was so that they might [ as in purpose] have life, not to offer life to them, but so they may have it, experience it, and that in a abundant manner. Then He gives us in Vs 11 the cause and ground of that giving them life, because He giveth His Life [meaning His substitutionary death] for them the Sheep. His death for them, ensures them having [experientially] life and that more in abundant.

That word abundantly in Vs 10 is the word perissos and means:

  1. exceeding some number or measure or rank or need
    1. over and above, more than is necessary, superadded
      1. exceeding abundantly, supremely
      2. something further, more, much more than all, more plainly
    2. superior, extraordinary, surpassing, uncommon
      1. pre-eminence, superiority, advantage, more eminent, more remarkable, more excellent

This is speaking of Spiritual life, so Christs death ensures the spiritual abundant life. This is also what Christ meant whe He spake these words in Jn 6:33

For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.

The world here is not all without exception, but His Sheep World, all without distinction.
 

beloved57

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Both Faith and Repentance are the fruit of Christs Death and our reconciliation to Him. All for whom He died have been reconciled to God Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

So that reconciliation will be manifested by us returning to God, which entails Faith and Repentance. Peter writes of that here 1 Pet 2:24-25

24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

25 For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.

The word returned here is the word epistrephō:

And its in the passive voice,


  1. to cause to return, to bring back
    1. to the love and obedience of God
    2. to the love for the children
    3. to love wisdom and righteousness

This is describing our conversion in Faith and repentance towards God. The saving death of Christ is responsible for our turning to God.
 

beloved57

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The results of the saving death of Christ is redemptive and so it effects the gathering of all Gods chosen people from around the world Ps 107:1-3

O give thanks unto the Lord, for he is good: for his mercy endureth for ever.

2 Let the redeemed of the Lord say so, whom he hath redeemed from the hand of the enemy;

3 And gathered them out of the lands, from the east, and from the west, from the north, and from the south.

Remember the high priest words in Jn 11 how that Christ should die and gather the children of God scattered abroad, and not just from the nation israel ? Jn 11:50-52

50 Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not.

51 And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;

52 And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad.

This gathering together of the people of God is the fruit and success of the redemptive , saving death of Christ.
 
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