The Rapture
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I want you to start a new thread in the Help Desk. It's in the Welcome Center section.
Revelation is the 70th week of Daniel. In part. It isn't about the body of Christ, Paul's church. The Messiah is cut off after 69 weeks. That is where we are. 1 week, 7 years to go for Israel.
You sure about that? Paul said it is a mystery, not revealed before. Ezekiel 37 and John 3 seem to show the same event, the resurrection into glorified bodies. Those of us alive will also be transformed, and that is not in scripture or prophecy. You have to be born twice, and Paul is telling us he will take us just the same. The difference comes down to timing. Timing is only brought up once.
1Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the departure comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
It is pretty obvious those he is writing too were concerned they missed it. He is letting them know they did not, and the order of things. The departure comes before the anti-Christ makes peace with Israel and they rebuild the Temple. So he can defile it.
and believe that Christ will be coming back for the b o c , but here do see the Greek word rapture as I have yet to see that Greek word ,
it is found in 2 Thess 1 here the Greek word coming // parousia back for us .
then in 1 Thess 4:17 the Greek word caught away // harpazo .
then in Gal 1:4 is the Greek word rescue // exaireo ,
dan p
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So they (I) believe that the Bible does say that Rapture will happen prior to the Anti-Christ public knowledge and you say they are perverts?
Paul was not female, nor alive in the 1800s.
2 Thessalonians 2 mentions the timing twice.
3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the departure comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,
7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming.
The restrainer is the Holy Spirit, who is dwells in the body of all believers. When we are gone, it will get wild. In a bad way. And his wrath will be poured out.
Seems like your question would make a great discussion for this thread. To first figure out if there is one or two then discuss when it or they take place. I'm not up on this topic well enough to add anything important, but I'd love to hear what some think along this vain. I'm prone to consider the theory of THE Rapture being after the 6th trumpet, but then there is the time period of the 1,000 year reign of Christ on the earth ... after which a final battle is fought and Satan, his angelic followers, The false Prophet and Anti-christ and lost human souls (or some combinations of these) are all cast into the Lake of Fire. At that time period there will be humans on earth marrying or not and still having children and so forth. They will need to be transformed into their new heavenly bodies.
Do Christians even call that event a rapture?
Or does the term 'THE Rapture' only apply to being caught up into the heavenlies ????