Nazaroo
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Remember that because of King's communist ties, he was an adamant opponent of the Vietnam war.
(Oops, wrong picture).
ha ha ha hilarious!
The Politically Incorrect Truth About Martin Luther King Jr.
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ha ha ha hilarious!
Depends on the Kennedy and when. They had a problem with the Civil Rights movement until they understood it better. And Harry Truman once had a Klan membership for a few years. The more we know the more we change.
Any number of people sympathetic to or against communism were against that war. Eventually most people.
Well, if someone wrote it down and had it put on the internet it must be true.
Read enough of that link/story to laugh out loud. Why not just type your own nonsense up and slap it on the internet then claim it as a source...assuming that's not what you did.
lain:And you still haven't answered your own question:
muslimsoldier
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Hmmm, worshipping what pedophile Prophet? Muslims don't worship anyone but Allah SWT so not sure what you are accusing me of exactly. I like it though, that you attack my faith without any real substance. :cheers:
BTW, the actual age of Aisha is still up for debate. It's most likely that she was 9 or 10 when they were married, but did not have sex until she was a teenager.
http://www.muslim.org/islam/aisha-age.htm
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...the Kennedys (not known for being ultra conservative) had problems with Martin Luther the King Jr. as well.
Correct me if I'm wrong here TH, but I'm not seeing a lot of love for MLK Jr. in these words spoken by Jackie Kennedy.
"I just can't see a picture of Martin Luther King without thinking, you know, that man's terrible," the former first lady revealed in a series of interviews with historian Arthur Schlesinger Jr. in the months following the 1963 assassination of husband John F. Kennedy.
According to tapes of the interviews--which ABC plans to reveal Sept. 13 during a two-hour special--Kennedy's displeasure with the civil rights leader stemmed from information Hoover gleaned from secret wiretaps and revealed to the Kennedy family.
Hoover reportedly told the president that King attempted to arrange a hotel orgy while in town for his now-famous March on Washington and Hoover told Robert F. Kennedy that King insulted JFK's funeral.
"He made fun of Cardinal [Richard] Cushing [who issued Kennedy's eulogy] and said that he was drunk at it. And things about they almost dropped the coffin and--well, I mean Martin Luther King is really a tricky person," Jacqueline Kennedy reportedly said."
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/...lYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkA1ZJUDA3N18x
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Why would a supposed man of God associate with someone like this? [in conjunction with a photo of Planned Parenthood founder Sanger at a Klan rally]
Let me add to that question TH:
Why would a man of God not only associate with abortionists, but work side by side with an openly homosexual man (Bayard Rustin), associate with communists in the anti war movement who were causing the unnecessary death of American GI's in Vietnam, and call capitalism "evil"?
(From King's comrades at the communist "Workers World"):
"Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was being radicalized by the churning events around him—and, a year before his death, he was both anti-war and anti-capitalist."
http://www.workers.org/2009/us/mumia_0205/
What man of God would be a plagiarist, an unrepentant sexual deviant who claimed that he was anti violence, yet riots broke out in practically every location that King spoke, and associate with black racists like Malcolm X and Elijah Mohammed?
Obviously King was your kind of man TH.
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
...the Kennedys (not known for being ultra conservative) had problems with Martin Luther the King Jr. as well.
Correct me if I'm wrong here TH, but I'm not seeing a lot of love for MLK Jr. in these words spoken by Jackie Kennedy.
"I just can't see a picture of Martin Luther King without thinking, you know, that man's terrible," the former first lady revealed in a series of interviews with historian Arthur Schlesinger Jr. in the months following the 1963 assassination of husband John F. Kennedy.
According to tapes of the interviews--which ABC plans to reveal Sept. 13 during a two-hour special--Kennedy's displeasure with the civil rights leader stemmed from information Hoover gleaned from secret wiretaps and revealed to the Kennedy family.
Hoover reportedly told the president that King attempted to arrange a hotel orgy while in town for his now-famous March on Washington and Hoover told Robert F. Kennedy that King insulted JFK's funeral.
"He made fun of Cardinal [Richard] Cushing [who issued Kennedy's eulogy] and said that he was drunk at it. And things about they almost dropped the coffin and--well, I mean Martin Luther King is really a tricky person," Jacqueline Kennedy reportedly said."
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/...lYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkA1ZJUDA3N18x
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Why would a supposed man of God associate with someone like this? [in conjunction with a photo of Planned Parenthood founder Sanger at a Klan rally]
Let me add to that question TH:
Why would a man of God not only associate with abortionists, but work side by side with an openly homosexual man (Bayard Rustin), associate with communists in the anti war movement who were causing the unnecessary death of American GI's in Vietnam, and call capitalism "evil"?
(From King's comrades at the communist "Workers World"):
"Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was being radicalized by the churning events around him—and, a year before his death, he was both anti-war and anti-capitalist."
http://www.workers.org/2009/us/mumia_0205/
What man of God would be a plagiarist, an unrepentant sexual deviant who claimed that he was anti violence, yet riots broke out in practically every location that King spoke, and associate with black racists like Malcolm X and Elijah Mohammed?
Obviously King was your kind of man TH.
This Charming Manc
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repeat same lies ad naseum .......
I've been correcting you and one Kennedy is not the Kennedy's any more than the Booths assassinated Lincoln.
lain: Its also worth noting the time stamp on the comments and that had she praised him vociferously we'd have never seen these comments from you, which is my way of noting what you're about.The question, again:
How about just answering it. Let's take one libel at a time, one logically unsustainable point here before we run to your rumor mongering as fact and any other points you're throwing into the air to avoid it.
The only obvious thing here is that you're not much of one.
drbrumley
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Let's put white guilt ridden liberals in a real quandary here and point out that the Kennedys (not known for being ultra conservative) had problems with Martin Luther the King Jr. as well.
Remember that because of King's communist ties, he was an adamant opponent of the Vietnam war.
(Oops, wrong picture).
"The communists were manipulating the civil rights movement in directions that benefited them, such as by influencing King to be critical of the war against communism in Vietnam and the system of free enterprise capitalism in the U.S."
http://www.usasurvival.org/ck09.17.2011.html
Nice misdirection AcW...You leftists are simply amazing in that regard!!!
Vietnam was wrong on all levels.
As I've mentioned in other threads that expose the fraud Martin Luther the King Jr.:
The modern day civil rights struggle goes back to the days of the great American Booker T. Washington, adviser to presidents and founder of the Tuskegee Institute. Washington believed that with hard work the American negro would eventually assimilate into a white society.
http://charleskmoorejr.blogspot.com/2010/02/booker-t-washington.html
His adversary was W.E.B. Dubois, founder of the leftwing Niagara Movement, and then later the communist founded NAACP.
"The naacp was founded by stalinist/socialist member of the communist party W. E. Burghardt DuBois. Out of the Niagara Movement, there emerged - in 1909 - the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. In its early history, the NAACP proved to be a natural attraction for Communists. DuBois, the real leader of the organization, "hailed the Russian Revolution of 1917," and he traveled to the Soviet Union in 1926 and 1936. He especially liked "the racial attitudes of the Communists."
http://storyreportscomments.blogspot.com/2010/07/naacp-was-founded-by.html
Dubois, at age 93 joined the Communist Party (shown here shaking hands with mass murderer Mao Tse Tung).
And Martin Luther the King Jr., who did he admire?
"On February 23, 1968, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was the keynote speaker at a benefit, marking the 100th birthday of W. E. B. DuBois held at Carnegie Hall. In his tribute that night, King remarked that "Dr. DuBois has left us, but he has not died. The spirit of freedom is not buried in the grave of the valiant."
http://www.carnegiehall.org/BlogPost.aspx?id=4294984027
The modern day civil rights struggle goes back to the days of the great American Booker T. Washington, adviser to presidents and founder of the Tuskegee Institute. Washington believed that with hard work the American negro would eventually assimilate into a white society.
http://charleskmoorejr.blogspot.com/2010/02/booker-t-washington.html
His adversary was W.E.B. Dubois, founder of the leftwing Niagara Movement, and then later the communist founded NAACP.
"The naacp was founded by stalinist/socialist member of the communist party W. E. Burghardt DuBois. Out of the Niagara Movement, there emerged - in 1909 - the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. In its early history, the NAACP proved to be a natural attraction for Communists. DuBois, the real leader of the organization, "hailed the Russian Revolution of 1917," and he traveled to the Soviet Union in 1926 and 1936. He especially liked "the racial attitudes of the Communists."
http://storyreportscomments.blogspot.com/2010/07/naacp-was-founded-by.html
Dubois, at age 93 joined the Communist Party (shown here shaking hands with mass murderer Mao Tse Tung).
And Martin Luther the King Jr., who did he admire?
"On February 23, 1968, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was the keynote speaker at a benefit, marking the 100th birthday of W. E. B. DuBois held at Carnegie Hall. In his tribute that night, King remarked that "Dr. DuBois has left us, but he has not died. The spirit of freedom is not buried in the grave of the valiant."
http://www.carnegiehall.org/BlogPost.aspx?id=4294984027
I think he pretends it's a thread, but it mostly seems to be a blog when he gets called on much. He's doing his level best to run from yet another example of an under thought declaration with a logic problem at the heart. He wants to undermine King so badly he posits that he was in league with the Klan, essentially.
Why of course he was...
I don't think he liked me pointing that out because he immediately went into a name calling and "Pay no attention to that fact behind the curtain!" frenzy. After a few of those I noted his exoskeleton and now he's spinning like a dervish.
Yep, us lefties are that way.
Was it wrong that we were over there attempting to stop the genocide of Southeast Asians by communist thugs, or was it wrong the way we went about fighting a war that wasn't meant to be won? (i.e. aiding the Soviet Union who in turn aided North Vietnam, not to mention a limp wristed approach to fighting the war).
The Berean
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The diametrically opposing views of W. E. B. Du Bois and Booker T. Washington makes for an interesting research project.
Maybe we should move to this discussion to the state of the Black American in today's society?
A large percent of black males are in jail.
A large percent of black women have abortions.
A large percent of black children are raised in fatherless homes.
High rate of drug and alcohol abuse in the Black community.
Too bad we didn't listen to Booker T. Washington.
The Berean
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That would be an interesting discussion.
Be my guest with getting it started.
muslimsoldier
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So he quoted outside sources without citin them in his speech? His bad. He had extra-marital affairs? Name me one Southern Baptist preacher that hasn't done that. Associate with known racists like Malcolm X? Malcolm X was brainwashed by the Nation of Islam while in prison, which is why he was "racist". During the Hajj, he learned that in Islam, racism is forbidden and that all men are equal in the eyes of Allah SWT. He came back and preached against the blasphemy that Elijah Muhammed was speaking and preached for equality for black people; he just stated that the black man should take it and not get beat on. He beleive in the eye for an eye approach to life, something Christians are divided on and I'm not sure why they are.
If you're going to call Malcolm X a racist and fault Dr. King for associating with him, then let's call out Reagen for associating with racists like Strom Thurmond or Jesse Helms; these guys held political office at the national level and passed laws.
Racist: to interject racism where none is present.
muslimsoldier
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Being that Jesus PBUH has been painted in pictures in the West as being fair skinned, it's reasonable to state what needs to be said. Jesus was a Palestinian and thus not white.
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Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
What man of God would be a plagiarist, an unrepentant sexual deviant who claimed that he was anti violence, yet riots broke out in practically every location that King spoke, and associate with black racists like Malcolm X and Elijah Mohammed?
i.e. "But but but, there are other moral degenerates out there, why point out MLK Jr.?"
Others haven't been given a national holiday in their name.
More like "All men are equal in the eyes of Allah, as long as they worship him."
Islam has close ties to Black Liberation Theology.
Islam and Black Liberation Theology
"Barack Obama has closely aligned himself with Reverend Jeremiah Wright and Black Liberation Theology (BLT). When viewed from the Christian point-of-view, BLT is a strange creed, but when seen from the standpoint of Islam, there is a very strong parallel.
Islam and BLT are theologies that have a political goal of making all politics submit to their demands. Submission is the political goal.
Islam and BLT are both based upon the principle of duality. The Koran divides up humanity into Muslims and the kafirs (unbelievers). BLT has a god that divides humanity into blacks and whites. But the duality is not the division, but a complete separation that is ethical, political, cultural and religious. The believer has nothing in common with the kafir/white. Allah loves the Muslim and a black god loves the blacks.
Allah preaches violence against the kafirs and helps Muslims to kill them. The Koran says that cruelty and hatred of the kafir is a sacred duty for Muslims.
BLT does not preach violence against whites, but excuses and justifies it. BLT also justifies black crime as a legal way for oppressed blacks to strike back at the white oppressors. It sees a rapist or killer of whites as a revolutionary committing a legitimate act of a just war. Here we have a quote from James Cone, the father of BLT:
"What we need is the divine love as expressed in black power, which is the power of blacks to destroy their oppressors, here and now, by any and all means at their disposal" [James Cone, A Black Theology of Liberation, p. 70]
http://www.politicalislam.com/blog/islam-and-black-liberation-theology/
Was Martin Luther the King Jr. a fan of Black Liberation Theology?
"Though he walked in the radical tradition of Black liberation theology and spoke out against domestic and foreign terrorism with zeal, many in White America have rebranded him into a gentle, color-blind giant whose only interest in White supremacy lied in ensuring that Black Americans could dine at its table.
That wasn’t the real Dr. King. That wasn’t our Dr. King..."
http://newsone.com/2843703/dr-martin-l-king-jr-im-black-and-im-beautiful-video/
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
What man of God would be a plagiarist, an unrepentant sexual deviant who claimed that he was anti violence, yet riots broke out in practically every location that King spoke, and associate with black racists like Malcolm X and Elijah Mohammed?
i.e. "But but but, there are other moral degenerates out there, why point out MLK Jr.?"
Others haven't been given a national holiday in their name.
More like "All men are equal in the eyes of Allah, as long as they worship him."
Islam has close ties to Black Liberation Theology.
Islam and Black Liberation Theology
"Barack Obama has closely aligned himself with Reverend Jeremiah Wright and Black Liberation Theology (BLT). When viewed from the Christian point-of-view, BLT is a strange creed, but when seen from the standpoint of Islam, there is a very strong parallel.
Islam and BLT are theologies that have a political goal of making all politics submit to their demands. Submission is the political goal.
Islam and BLT are both based upon the principle of duality. The Koran divides up humanity into Muslims and the kafirs (unbelievers). BLT has a god that divides humanity into blacks and whites. But the duality is not the division, but a complete separation that is ethical, political, cultural and religious. The believer has nothing in common with the kafir/white. Allah loves the Muslim and a black god loves the blacks.
Allah preaches violence against the kafirs and helps Muslims to kill them. The Koran says that cruelty and hatred of the kafir is a sacred duty for Muslims.
BLT does not preach violence against whites, but excuses and justifies it. BLT also justifies black crime as a legal way for oppressed blacks to strike back at the white oppressors. It sees a rapist or killer of whites as a revolutionary committing a legitimate act of a just war. Here we have a quote from James Cone, the father of BLT:
"What we need is the divine love as expressed in black power, which is the power of blacks to destroy their oppressors, here and now, by any and all means at their disposal" [James Cone, A Black Theology of Liberation, p. 70]
http://www.politicalislam.com/blog/islam-and-black-liberation-theology/
Was Martin Luther the King Jr. a fan of Black Liberation Theology?
"Though he walked in the radical tradition of Black liberation theology and spoke out against domestic and foreign terrorism with zeal, many in White America have rebranded him into a gentle, color-blind giant whose only interest in White supremacy lied in ensuring that Black Americans could dine at its table.
That wasn’t the real Dr. King. That wasn’t our Dr. King..."
http://newsone.com/2843703/dr-martin-l-king-jr-im-black-and-im-beautiful-video/
Palestinian? That is a new word. He was an Israelite. And it has nothing to do with that pervert's misdirection. He wants to distract from the topic by playing the race card.
muslimsoldier
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Hmmm, never knew that. I'm going to have to go back and read the Holy Q'uran, and the few Hadiths I have on hand that specifically deal with Black Liberation Theology. I wanna see where the Prophet SAW said that Islam was going to further the advancement of a specific race and teach that one race was inferior to others. Before I do that, can you point me in the direction of the correct Sunnah that states this? You seem keen on Islamic teachings, so I'm assuming you've been well eductated on my faith.