The Mar-A-Lago raid

marke

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I don't think so:

In Clinton's case, the FBI did not find evidence "sufficient to establish" that she knew she was receiving or sending classified information and that it was against the law, Comey said.



Aren't there a few Republican judges out there who could have taken up the case?
I don't think judges can choose to get involved in cases without historic procedures being followed. Comey is the one who suggested the case against Hillary be dropped because, according to him, even though she was giuilty she did not mean to break the law and, also according to him, no judge who values his job would dare take on a case involving the leading democrat.
 

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Not one document has been sorted, but Donald Trump has already lost everything he gained when Judge Aileen Cannon appointed a “special master.” In the last week, rulings from that special master, Judge Raymond Dearie, and from a three-judge panel of the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals, have drained the entire process of any value to Trump. That process will continue. But everything Trump hoped to achieve, is gone.

 

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Not one document has been sorted, but Donald Trump has already lost everything he gained when Judge Aileen Cannon appointed a “special master.” In the last week, rulings from that special master, Judge Raymond Dearie, and from a three-judge panel of the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals, have drained the entire process of any value to Trump. That process will continue. But everything Trump hoped to achieve, is gone.

Democrats violated the Constitution, due process, and Trump's civil rights when they unjustly impeached him twice because they had just enough leftist votes to commit the crimes against him and America. Leftist justice officials bought and paid for by leftists like George Soros are seeking to falsely convict him again on false allegations so they can jail him unjustly because, unlike God, they despise the man for being so popular with so many Americans, threatening the power and positions they obtained by political corruption.
 

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Democrats violated the Constitution, due process, and Trump's civil rights when they unjustly impeached him twice because they had just enough leftist votes to commit the crimes against him and America. Leftist justice officials bought and paid for by leftists like George Soros are seeking to falsely convict him again on false allegations so they can jail him unjustly because, unlike God, they despise the man for being so popular with so many Americans, threatening the power and positions they obtained by political corruption.
Republicans violated the Constitution, due process, and Clinton's civil rights when they unjustly impeached him because they had just enough rightwing votes to commit the crimes against him and America. Rightwing justice officials bought and paid for by rightwingers like Koch are seeking to falsely convict him again on false allegations so they can jail him unjustly because, unlike God, they despise the man for being so popular with so many women, threatening the power and positions they obtained by political corruption.
 

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Republicans violated the Constitution, due process, and Clinton's civil rights when they unjustly impeached him because they had just enough rightwing votes to commit the crimes against him and America. Rightwing justice officials bought and paid for by rightwingers like Koch are seeking to falsely convict him again on false allegations so they can jail him unjustly because, unlike God, they despise the man for being so popular with so many women, threatening the power and positions they obtained by political corruption.
Personally I think there was some anti-cigar smoker hatred going on too. :unsure:
 

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Trump's widespread support disproved the polls and won the election for him in 2016. His campaign crowds in 2020 were enormous, especially compared to the sparse following Biden inspired at his campaign events. But pollsters lie and crooks commit fraud, so Trump still lost the election in spite of his huge following among non-leftist, pro-American, patriots.
 

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Barr has not annulled Judge Berman Jackson's court decision regarding the ex-president's rights to classify and declassify documents as they see fit.
You don't seem to understand what you are talking about, as per usual. Which court decision are you referring to, exactly? Name it.
 

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You don't seem to understand what you are talking about, as per usual. Which court decision are you referring to, exactly? Name it.
Leftist Hero Judge Amy Berman Jackson Ruled In 2012 That A POTUS' discretion to declare records "personal" is far-reaching and mostly unchallengeable | NittanyNation.com (rivals.com)

Leftist Hero Judge Amy Berman Jackson Ruled In 2012 That A POTUS' discretion to declare records "personal" is far-reaching and mostly unchallengeable

Start dateAug 31, 2022

Read it and weep. Can't have it both ways.
Old case over audio tapes in Bill Clinton's sock drawer could impact Mar-a-Lago search dispute

Judge ruled in 2012 that a president's discretion to declare records "personal" is far-reaching and mostly unchallengeable.

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"...The case in question is titled Judicial Watch v. National Archives and Records Administration and it involved an effort by the conservative watchdog to compel the Archives to forcibly seize hours of audio recordings that Clinton made during his presidency with historian Taylor Branch.

For pop culture, the case is most memorable for the revelation that the 42nd president for a time stored the audio tapes in his sock drawer at the White House. The tapes became the focal point of a 2009 book that Branch wrote.

U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson in Washington D.C. ultimately rejected Judicial Watch's suit by concluding there was no provision in the Presidential Records Act to force the National Archives to seize records from a former president.

But Jackson's ruling — along with the Justice Department's arguments that preceded it — made some other sweeping declarations that have more direct relevance to the FBI's decision to seize handwritten notes and files Trump took with him to Mar-a-Lago. The most relevant is that a president's discretion on what are personal vs. official records is far-reaching and solely his, as is his ability to declassify or destroy records at will.

"Under the statutory scheme established by the PRA, the decision to segregate personal materials from Presidential records is made by the President, during the President's term and in his sole discretion," Jackson wrote in her March 2012 decision, which was never appealed.

"Since the President is completely entrusted with the management and even the disposal of Presidential records during his time in office, it would be difficult for this Court to conclude that Congress intended that he would have less authority to do what he pleases with what he considers to be his personal records," she added.

You can read the full ruling here:

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The judge noted a president could destroy any record he wanted during his tenure and his only responsibility was to inform the Arch
 

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