The Late Great Urantia Revelation

[freelight]

Reflections.....

Reflections.....

Doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results is said to be a form of insanity.

- well, from one perspective considering where the 'non-sane' aspects come in. At best I can constructively engage one that doesn't seem to be getting it thru the art of 'creative dialogue', as light can pierce thru to some degree even the thickest fog. I realize there are limits to such an engagement, so being cognizant of those, while maintaining some degree of sanity and discretion is the best route.

Its amazing that one can look in from the outside of something, believe all the negative often misconstrued things about it and rally on the side of 'popular-vote' and 'assumption', in the 'name' of their religious cult-ure (belief system),...while being oblivious to the greater reality and significance of what that school or revelation brings to vision. Its like taking one little stream to be the only true 'water-source', when that stream is only one of many rivers all flowing from and back into the Great Ocean (the source and substance of water which is omnipresent, ever-available....'water' in this case representing the Infinite Spirit).

A significant theme revealed in the UB is 'God' being the First Source and Center, and the Isle of Paradise being the hub of the wheel of creation, the 'great attractor' as it were, where all gravitates towards ultimately, since the influence of that divine center extends ever outward thru all space and time, into infinity. All leads back to the "Heart" of the cosmos. It is these true, beautiful and universal themes that inspire one Godward, towards the will of that One, since that will alone is divine motivation. This is at the heart of what the Urantia Revelation is all about, for those who have actually read it, and understood its primary message.



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[Aimiel]

- well, from one perspective considering where the 'non-sane' aspects come in. At best I can constructively engage one that doesn't seem to be getting it thru the art of 'creative dialogue', as light can pierce thru to some degree even the thickest fog.

What you don't seem to realize is that darkness doesn't pierce light. It doesn't do anything. It flees from the light. It represents the lack of light. It is all that you and Caino are full of: complete darkness. You call your darkness: "Light," but it doesn't make it light... it merely reveals how deceived you are.

Its amazing that one can look in from the outside of something, believe all the negative often misconstrued things about it and rally on the side of 'popular-vote' and 'assumption', in the 'name' of their religious cult-ure (belief system),...while being oblivious to the greater reality and significance of what that school or revelation brings to vision.

Ditto. You've only observed Christianity from the outside. We can only pray that one day you find out Truth. The only way one can partake of Truth is to have The Living Christ inside of them. Neither you or Caino have that. All you have is Jebus. It's a lying spirit.

A significant theme revealed in the UB is 'God' being the First Source and Center, and the Isle of Paradise being the hub of the wheel of creation, the 'great attractor' as it were, where all gravitates towards ultimately, since the influence of that divine center extends ever outward thru all space and time, into infinity.

Bla, bla, bla... your UB has filled your head with such nonsense that you've bought into the lie: "You shall not surely die."

It is these true, beautiful and universal themes that inspire one Godward, towards the will of that One, since that will alone is divine motivation. This is at the heart of what the Urantia Revelation is all about, for those who have actually read it, and understood its primary message.

Truth is: there is no Truth in the UB, only lies. Those who buy into it are deceived by demonic doctrine. That much is crystal clear. Those of us in the light don't have fog and darkness blocking our vision and are capable of seeing the wiles of the enemy for what they actually are. The UB is designed to draw people away from Christ and lead them straight to hell in the name of Jebus, a false god who doesn't even exist. The UB isn't from above.

 

[Caino]

Freelight, don't let the swine get you down, like a poisonous snake, you knew what it was before you picked it up.

A person who actually read the UB would know that there is no space craft mentioned, just angels who can transport personalities over great distances. However the Bible does have a kind of a space craft as well as a unicorn and a talking donkey, it's actually made out of fire.....like everything else intended to inspire fear and awe from bible worshipers.


But like so many strange things in the bible, the source of these distorted stories has some truth, it's called "translation."

Death and Translation​

(623.1) 55:2.1 Natural, physical death is not a mortal inevitability. The majority of advanced evolutionary beings, citizens on worlds existing in the final era of light and life, do not die; they are translated directly from the life in the flesh to the morontia existence.

(623.2) 55:2.2 This experience of translation from the material life to the morontia state — fusion of the immortal soul with the indwelling Adjuster — increases in frequency commensurate with the evolutionary progress of the planet. At first only a few mortals in each age attain translation levels of spiritual progress, but with the onset of the successive ages of the Teacher Sons, more and more Adjuster fusions occur before the termination of the lengthening lives of these progressing mortals; and by the time of the terminal mission of the Teacher Sons, approximately one quarter of these superb mortals are exempt from natural death.

(623.3) 55:2.3 Farther along in the era of light and life the midway creatures or their associates sense the approaching status of probable soul-Adjuster union and signify this to the destiny guardians, who in turn communicate these matters to the finaliter group under whose jurisdiction this mortal may be functioning; then there is issued the summons of the Planetary Sovereign for such a mortal to resign all planetary duties, bid farewell to the world of his origin, and repair to the inner temple of the Planetary Sovereign, there to await morontia transit, the translation flash, from the material domain of evolution to the morontia level of prespirit progression.

(623.4) 55:2.4 When the family, friends, and working group of such a fusion candidate have forgathered in the morontia temple, they are distributed around the central stage whereon the fusion candidates are resting, meantime freely conversing with their assembled friends. A circle of intervening celestial personalities is arranged to protect the material mortals from the action of the energies manifest at the instant of the “life flash” which delivers the ascension candidate from the bonds of material flesh, thereby doing for such an evolutionary mortal everything that natural death does for those who are thereby delivered from the flesh.

(623.5) 55:2.5 Many fusion candidates may be assembled in the spacious temple at the same time. And what a beautiful occasion when mortals thus forgather to witness the ascension of their loved ones in spiritual flames, and what a contrast to those earlier ages when mortals must commit their dead to the embrace of the terrestrial elements! The scenes of weeping and wailing characteristic of earlier epochs of human evolution are now replaced by ecstatic joy and the sublimest enthusiasm as these God-knowing mortals bid their loved ones a transient farewell as they are removed from their material associations by the spiritual fires of consuming grandeur and ascending glory. On worlds settled in light and life, “funerals” are occasions of supreme joy, profound satisfaction, and inexpressible hope.

(623.6) 55:2.6 The souls of these progressing mortals are increasingly filled with faith, hope, and assurance. The spirit permeating those gathered around the translation shrine resembles that of the joyful friends and relatives who might assemble at a graduating exercise for one of their group, or who might come together to witness the conferring of some great honor upon one of their number. And it would be decidedly helpful if less advanced mortals could only learn to view natural death with something of this same cheerfulness and lightheartedness.

(624.1) 55:2.7 Mortal observers can see nothing of their translated associates subsequent to the fusion flash. Such translated souls proceed by Adjuster transit direct to the resurrection hall of the appropriate morontia-training world. These transactions concerned with the translation of living human beings to the morontia world are supervised by an archangel who was assigned to such a world on the day when it was first settled in light and life.

(624.2) 55:2.8 By the time a world attains the fourth stage of light and life, more than half the mortals leave the planet by translation from among the living. Such diminishment of death continues on and on, but I know of no system whose inhabited worlds, even though long settled in life, are entirely free from natural death as the technique of escape from the bonds of flesh. And until such a high state of planetary evolution is uniformly attained, the morontia-training worlds of the local universe must continue in service as educational and cultural spheres for the evolving morontia progressors. The elimination of death is theoretically possible, but it has not yet occurred according to my observation. Perhaps such a status may be attained during the faraway stretches of the succeeding epochs of the seventh stage of settled planetary life.

(624.3) 55:2.9 The translated souls of the flowering ages of the settled spheres do not pass through the mansion worlds. Neither do they sojourn, as students, on the morontia worlds of the system or constellation. They do not pass through any of the earlier phases of morontia life. They are the only ascending mortals who so nearly escape the morontia transition from material existence to semispirit status. The initial experience of such Son-seized mortals in the ascension career is in the services of the progression worlds of the universe headquarters. And from these study worlds of Salvington they go back as teachers to the very worlds they passed by, subsequently going on inward to Paradise by the established route of mortal ascension.

(624.4) 55:2.10 Could you but visit a planet in an advanced stage of development, you would quickly grasp the reasons for providing for the differential reception of ascending mortals on the mansion and higher morontia worlds. You would readily understand that beings passing on from such highly evolved spheres are prepared to resume their Paradise ascent far in advance of the average mortal arriving from a disordered and backward world like Urantia.

(624.5) 55:2.11 No matter from what level of planetary attainment human beings may ascend to the morontia worlds, the seven mansion spheres afford them ample opportunity to gain in experience as teacher-students all of everything which they failed to pass through because of the advanced status of their native planets.

(624.6) 55:2.12 The universe is unfailing in the application of these equalizing techniques designed to insure that no ascender shall be deprived of aught which is essential to his ascension experience.

 

[Aimiel]

Those who do not fear God actually have the most reason to fear Him. He is an all-consuming fire.

Deuteronomy 4:24
For the Lord thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.

He is jealous of Jebus, the false god you worship, because he doesn't even exist but you give more thought and put more stock in the words attributed to him in the UB than God's Own Words found in The Holy Scriptures. Those who come to know God do so because they have a healthy fear of God, Who is all-powerful. Then they come to know His Grace, given to those who eat Jesus' Flesh and drink His Blood and the fear melts away. Those who go on to Christian maturity and come into a One-on-one relationship with The Lord come to know a healthy fear of God once more, because He is Great and Terrible. If one doesn't fear God it is because one doesn't know Him.

Hebrews 4:12
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

 

[Caino]

Elijah, who was translated, now sits on the council of four and twenty elders that John saw in his vision on Patmos.

Revelation 4:4
King James Version (KJV)

"And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold."​

The Four and Twenty Counselors​

(513.4) 45:4.1 At the center of the seven angelic residential circles on Jerusem is located the headquarters of the Urantia advisory council, the four and twenty counselors. John the Revelator called them the four and twenty elders: “And round about the throne were four and twenty seats, and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment.” The throne in the center of this group is the judgment seat of the presiding archangel, the throne of the resurrection roll call of mercy and justice for all Satania. This judgment seat has always been on Jerusem, but the twenty-four surrounding seats were placed in position no more than nineteen hundred years ago, soon after Christ Michael was elevated to the full sovereignty of Nebadon. These four and twenty counselors are his personal agents on Jerusem, and they have authority to represent the Master Son in all matters concerning the roll calls of Satania and in many other phases of the scheme of mortal ascension on the isolated worlds of the system. They are the designated agents for executing the special requests of Gabriel and the unusual mandates of Michael.

(513.5) 45:4.2 These twenty-four counselors have been recruited from the eight Urantia races, and the last of this group were assembled at the time of the resurrection roll call of Michael, nineteen hundred years ago. This Urantia advisory council is made up of the following members:

(513.6) 45:4.3 1. Onagar, the master mind of the pre-Planetary Prince age, who directed his fellows in the worship of “The Breath Giver.”

(513.7) 45:4.4 2. Mansant, the great teacher of the post-Planetary Prince age on Urantia, who pointed his fellows to the veneration of “The Great Light.”

(513.8) 45:4.5 3. Onamonalonton, a far-distant leader of the red man and the one who directed this race from the worship of many gods to the veneration of “The Great Spirit.”

(513.9) 45:4.6 4. Orlandof, a prince of the blue men and their leader in the recognition of the divinity of “The Supreme Chief.”

(513.10) 45:4.7 5. Porshunta, the oracle of the extinct orange race and the leader of this people in the worship of “The Great Teacher.”

(513.11) 45:4.8 6. Singlangton, the first of the yellow men to teach and lead his people in the worship of “One Truth” instead of many. Thousands of years ago the yellow man knew of the one God.

(513.12) 45:4.9 7. Fantad, the deliverer of the green men from darkness and their leader in the worship of “The One Source of Life.”

(513.13) 45:4.10 8. Orvonon, the enlightener of the indigo races and their leader in the onetime service of “The God of Gods.”

(514.1) 45:4.11 9. Adam, the discredited but rehabilitated planetary father of Urantia, a Material Son of God who was relegated to the likeness of mortal flesh, but who survived and was subsequently elevated to this position by the decree of Michael.

(514.2) 45:4.12 10. Eve, the mother of the violet race of Urantia, who suffered the penalty of default with her mate and was also rehabilitated with him and assigned to serve with this group of mortal survivors.

(514.3) 45:4.13 11. Enoch, the first of the mortals of Urantia to fuse with the Thought Adjuster during the mortal life in the flesh.

(514.4) 45:4.14 12. Moses, the emancipator of a remnant of the submerged violet race and the instigator of the revival of the worship of the Universal Father under the name of “The God of Israel.”

(514.5) 45:4.15 13. Elijah, a translated soul of brilliant spiritual achievement during the post-Material Son age.

(514.6) 45:4.16 14. Machiventa Melchizedek, the only Son of this order to bestow himself upon the Urantia races. While still numbered as a Melchizedek, he has become “forever a minister of the Most Highs,” eternally assuming the assignment of service as a mortal ascender, having sojourned on Urantia in the likeness of mortal flesh at Salem in the days of Abraham. This Melchizedek has latterly been proclaimed vicegerent Planetary Prince of Urantia with headquarters on Jerusem and authority to act in behalf of Michael, who is actually the Planetary Prince of the world whereon he experienced his terminal bestowal in human form. Notwithstanding this, Urantia is still supervised by successive resident governors general, members of the four and twenty counselors.

(514.7) 45:4.17 15. John the Baptist, the forerunner of Michael’s mission on Urantia and, in the flesh, distant cousin of the Son of Man.

(514.8) 45:4.18 16. 1-2-3 the First, the leader of the loyal midway creatures in the service of Gabriel at the time of the Caligastia betrayal, elevated to this position by Michael soon after his entrance upon unconditioned sovereignty.

(514.9) 45:4.19 These selected personalities are exempt from the ascension regime for the time being, on Gabriel’s request, and we have no idea how long they may serve in this capacity.

(514.10) 45:4.20 Seats numbers 17, 18, 19, and 20 are not permanently occupied. They are temporarily filled by the unanimous consent of the sixteen permanent members, being kept open for later assignment to ascending mortals from the present postbestowal Son age on Urantia.

(514.11) 45:4.21 Numbers 21, 22, 23, and 24 are likewise temporarily filled while being held in reserve for the great teachers of other and subsequent ages which undoubtedly will follow the present age. Eras of the Magisterial Sons and Teacher Sons and the ages of light and life are to be anticipated on Urantia, regardless of unexpected visitations of divine Sons which may or may not occur.

 

[Aimiel]

Pure fiction. No Truth is in the UB. :duh:

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Elijah, who was translated, now sits on the council of four and twenty elders that John saw in his vision on Patmos.

Revelation 4:4
King James Version (KJV)

"And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold."​

The Four and Twenty Counselors​

(513.4) 45:4.1 At the center of the seven angelic residential circles on Jerusem is located the headquarters of the Urantia advisory council, the four and twenty counselors. John the Revelator called them the four and twenty elders: “And round about the throne were four and twenty seats, and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment.” The throne in the center of this group is the judgment seat of the presiding archangel, the throne of the resurrection roll call of mercy and justice for all Satania. This judgment seat has always been on Jerusem, but the twenty-four surrounding seats were placed in position no more than nineteen hundred years ago, soon after Christ Michael was elevated to the full sovereignty of Nebadon. These four and twenty counselors are his personal agents on Jerusem, and they have authority to represent the Master Son in all matters concerning the roll calls of Satania and in many other phases of the scheme of mortal ascension on the isolated worlds of the system. They are the designated agents for executing the special requests of Gabriel and the unusual mandates of Michael.

(513.5) 45:4.2 These twenty-four counselors have been recruited from the eight Urantia races, and the last of this group were assembled at the time of the resurrection roll call of Michael, nineteen hundred years ago. This Urantia advisory council is made up of the following members:

(513.6) 45:4.3 1. Onagar, the master mind of the pre-Planetary Prince age, who directed his fellows in the worship of “The Breath Giver.”

(513.7) 45:4.4 2. Mansant, the great teacher of the post-Planetary Prince age on Urantia, who pointed his fellows to the veneration of “The Great Light.”

(513.8) 45:4.5 3. Onamonalonton, a far-distant leader of the red man and the one who directed this race from the worship of many gods to the veneration of “The Great Spirit.”

(513.9) 45:4.6 4. Orlandof, a prince of the blue men and their leader in the recognition of the divinity of “The Supreme Chief.”

(513.10) 45:4.7 5. Porshunta, the oracle of the extinct orange race and the leader of this people in the worship of “The Great Teacher.”

(513.11) 45:4.8 6. Singlangton, the first of the yellow men to teach and lead his people in the worship of “One Truth” instead of many. Thousands of years ago the yellow man knew of the one God.

(513.12) 45:4.9 7. Fantad, the deliverer of the green men from darkness and their leader in the worship of “The One Source of Life.”

(513.13) 45:4.10 8. Orvonon, the enlightener of the indigo races and their leader in the onetime service of “The God of Gods.”

You left out;

1.Sneezy
2.Sleepy
3.Dopey
4.Doc
5.Happy
6.Bashful
7.Grumpy

Seven of the original writers of the urantia book!

 

[Aimiel]

:rotfl:

 

[Caino]

So the horses were also on fire:
11 "As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind."



That's hysterical!

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Elijah, who was translated, now sits on the council of four and twenty elders that John saw in his vision on Patmos.

Revelation 4:4
King James Version (KJV)

"And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold."​

The Four and Twenty Counselors​

(513.6) 45:4.3 1. Onagar, the master mind of the pre-Planetary Prince age, who directed his fellows in the worship of “The Breath Giver.”

(518.7) 54:2.52. Lou Crabowitz, The guy who made
baloney, a household name and also made it possible for logic
to become unnecessary!

(513.8) 45:4.5 3. Onamonalonton, a far-distant leader of the red man and the one who directed this race from the worship of many gods to the veneration of “The Great Spirit.”

(513.9) 45:4.6 4. Orlandof, a prince of the blue men and their leader in the recognition of the divinity of “The Supreme Chief.”

(513.10) 45:4.7 5. Mactogovich, leader of the near extinct
little green men brigade. He also made it possible for something
totally bogus to become something else totally bogus!

(513.11) 45:4.8 6. Singlangton, the first of the yellow men to teach and lead his people in the worship of “One Truth” instead of many. Thousands of years ago the yellow man knew of the one God.

(513.12) 45:4.9 7. Strutcaste, the creature of low stature who became a larger than life editor of family vacation magazines, and helped to support anti-Hula Hoop legislation during the 1950s.


(513.13) 45:4.10 8. Flogmagadhesive co-owner of the first
delicatessen on the planet Mars. Also known for his outrageous
rendition of "Farmer in the Dell" while juggling a half a dozen Jerzy
cows!

(514.1) 45:4.11 9. Adam, the discredited but rehabilitated planetary father of Urantia, a Material Son of God who was relegated to the likeness of mortal flesh, but who survived and was subsequently elevated to this position by the decree of Michael.

(514.2) 45:4.12 10. Eve, the mother of the violet race of Urantia, who suffered the penalty of default with her mate and was also rehabilitated with him and assigned to serve with this group of mortal survivors.

(514.3) 45:4.13 11. Enoch, the first of the mortals of Urantia to fuse with the Thought Adjuster during the mortal life in the flesh.

(514.4) 45:4.14 12. Moses, the emancipator of a remnant of the submerged violet race and the instigator of the revival of the worship of the Universal Father under the name of “The God of Israel.”

(514.5) 45:4.15 13. Elijah, a translated soul of brilliant spiritual achievement during the post-Material Son age.

(514.6) 45:4.16 14. Machiventa Melchizedek, the only Son of this order to bestow himself upon the Urantia races. While still numbered as a Melchizedek, he has become “forever a minister of the Most Highs,” eternally assuming the assignment of service as a mortal ascender, having sojourned on Urantia in the likeness of mortal flesh at Salem in the days of Abraham. This Melchizedek has latterly been proclaimed vicegerent Planetary Prince of Urantia with headquarters on Jerusem and authority to act in behalf of Michael, who is actually the Planetary Prince of the world whereon he experienced his terminal bestowal in human form. Notwithstanding this, Urantia is still supervised by successive resident governors general, members of the four and twenty counselors.

(514.7) 45:4.17 15. John the Baptist, the forerunner of Michael’s mission on Urantia and, in the flesh, distant cousin of the Son of Man.

(514.8) 45:4.18 16. 1-2-3 the First, the leader of the loyal midway creatures in the service of Gabriel at the time of the Caligastia betrayal, elevated to this position by Michael soon after his entrance upon unconditioned sovereignty.

(514.9) 45:4.19 These selected personalities are exempt from the ascension regime for the time being, on Gabriel’s request, and we have no idea how long they may serve in this capacity.

(514.10) 45:4.20 Horacelandonquarry, The only member of a
family of half-midget, half giant landscapers to become the leader of a small brigade of militant Urantians. They nearly took control of a
tennis court in Newark, New Jersey! Famed for stating; "I never thought I'd nearly take control of a tennis court in Newark, New Jersey?"

(514.11) 45:4.21 Apollocreedheimer, The first Urantian to lay claim on a piece of land belonging to a leader of a left handed Banjo band who regularly participated in the first ever, Slobovia pumpkin drop!

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

The most revered Urantian leader of all time was, Kirkspock
Klatugortjupitarian. He first devised a way to combine the
fantasy world with the world of reality! Then, through much
pondering, and meditation, decided to reverse the process and
return to his original goal of attempting to discover ways of
energizing self-tying shoe laces!

 

[Aimiel]

I have three pair of those... they're great!

Posted from the TOL App!

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

I have three pair of those... they're great!

Posted from the TOL App!

At least 'Kirkspock' accomplished something!

 

[Aimiel]

Yeah, I wear them in my dreams. \o/

 

[freelight]

Divine translations................

Divine translations................

Death and Translation​

(623.1) 55:2.1 Natural, physical death is not a mortal inevitability. The majority of advanced evolutionary beings, citizens on worlds existing in the final era of light and life, do not die; they are translated directly from the life in the flesh to the morontia existence.

(623.2) 55:2.2 This experience of translation from the material life to the morontia state — fusion of the immortal soul with the indwelling Adjuster — increases in frequency commensurate with the evolutionary progress of the planet. At first only a few mortals in each age attain translation levels of spiritual progress, but with the onset of the successive ages of the Teacher Sons, more and more Adjuster fusions occur before the termination of the lengthening lives of these progressing mortals; and by the time of the terminal mission of the Teacher Sons, approximately one quarter of these superb mortals are exempt from natural death.

(623.3) 55:2.3 Farther along in the era of light and life the midway creatures or their associates sense the approaching status of probable soul-Adjuster union and signify this to the destiny guardians, who in turn communicate these matters to the finaliter group under whose jurisdiction this mortal may be functioning; then there is issued the summons of the Planetary Sovereign for such a mortal to resign all planetary duties, bid farewell to the world of his origin, and repair to the inner temple of the Planetary Sovereign, there to await morontia transit, the translation flash, from the material domain of evolution to the morontia level of prespirit progression.

(623.4) 55:2.4 When the family, friends, and working group of such a fusion candidate have forgathered in the morontia temple, they are distributed around the central stage whereon the fusion candidates are resting, meantime freely conversing with their assembled friends. A circle of intervening celestial personalities is arranged to protect the material mortals from the action of the energies manifest at the instant of the “life flash” which delivers the ascension candidate from the bonds of material flesh, thereby doing for such an evolutionary mortal everything that natural death does for those who are thereby delivered from the flesh.

(623.5) 55:2.5 Many fusion candidates may be assembled in the spacious temple at the same time. And what a beautiful occasion when mortals thus forgather to witness the ascension of their loved ones in spiritual flames, and what a contrast to those earlier ages when mortals must commit their dead to the embrace of the terrestrial elements! The scenes of weeping and wailing characteristic of earlier epochs of human evolution are now replaced by ecstatic joy and the sublimest enthusiasm as these God-knowing mortals bid their loved ones a transient farewell as they are removed from their material associations by the spiritual fires of consuming grandeur and ascending glory. On worlds settled in light and life, “funerals” are occasions of supreme joy, profound satisfaction, and inexpressible hope.

(623.6) 55:2.6 The souls of these progressing mortals are increasingly filled with faith, hope, and assurance. The spirit permeating those gathered around the translation shrine resembles that of the joyful friends and relatives who might assemble at a graduating exercise for one of their group, or who might come together to witness the conferring of some great honor upon one of their number. And it would be decidedly helpful if less advanced mortals could only learn to view natural death with something of this same cheerfulness and lightheartedness.

(624.1) 55:2.7 Mortal observers can see nothing of their translated associates subsequent to the fusion flash. Such translated souls proceed by Adjuster transit direct to the resurrection hall of the appropriate morontia-training world. These transactions concerned with the translation of living human beings to the morontia world are supervised by an archangel who was assigned to such a world on the day when it was first settled in light and life.

(624.2) 55:2.8 By the time a world attains the fourth stage of light and life, more than half the mortals leave the planet by translation from among the living. Such diminishment of death continues on and on, but I know of no system whose inhabited worlds, even though long settled in life, are entirely free from natural death as the technique of escape from the bonds of flesh. And until such a high state of planetary evolution is uniformly attained, the morontia-training worlds of the local universe must continue in service as educational and cultural spheres for the evolving morontia progressors. The elimination of death is theoretically possible, but it has not yet occurred according to my observation. Perhaps such a status may be attained during the faraway stretches of the succeeding epochs of the seventh stage of settled planetary life.

(624.3) 55:2.9 The translated souls of the flowering ages of the settled spheres do not pass through the mansion worlds. Neither do they sojourn, as students, on the morontia worlds of the system or constellation. They do not pass through any of the earlier phases of morontia life. They are the only ascending mortals who so nearly escape the morontia transition from material existence to semispirit status. The initial experience of such Son-seized mortals in the ascension career is in the services of the progression worlds of the universe headquarters. And from these study worlds of Salvington they go back as teachers to the very worlds they passed by, subsequently going on inward to Paradise by the established route of mortal ascension.

(624.4) 55:2.10 Could you but visit a planet in an advanced stage of development, you would quickly grasp the reasons for providing for the differential reception of ascending mortals on the mansion and higher morontia worlds. You would readily understand that beings passing on from such highly evolved spheres are prepared to resume their Paradise ascent far in advance of the average mortal arriving from a disordered and backward world like Urantia.

(624.5) 55:2.11 No matter from what level of planetary attainment human beings may ascend to the morontia worlds, the seven mansion spheres afford them ample opportunity to gain in experience as teacher-students all of everything which they failed to pass through because of the advanced status of their native planets.

(624.6) 55:2.12 The universe is unfailing in the application of these equalizing techniques designed to insure that no ascender shall be deprived of aught which is essential to his ascension experience.

What is amazing is the providence of God in providing for the eternal life-progression, immortality and unending universe service....as one champions their divine purpose and calling to serve Life. Descriptions of the various realms, spheres, training-worlds beyond this material world, inspires hope, courage, anticipation, fortitude. While these descriptions may seem 'fantastic' or 'far fetched',...the principle and revelation of a wondrously governed ascension-program is what is key as such a system of life-progression would be orchestrated by an infinite intelligence.

On this world it appears only a few have been truly 'translated', among these Enoch and Elijah, and Jesus (albeit in perhaps a different 'manner'), unless you know of more - some have claimed to have been so 'spiritualized' that they were 'translated' in some way, or thru such advanced spiritual purity and power are able to transcend the laws of nature, as to walk thru solid objects, transport over long distances, be in more places at once (bi-location) and other feats that would appear to the natural man as 'miraculous'.

We note according to this record,...only as a planet spiritually evolves to a more advanced state, are 'translations' more common, the conditions being met by a more perfected state of being. I gather Urantia (Earth) has quite a ways to go as far as our standard of time goes (decades, centuries, millennia, etc.) before our planet is settled in the first stage of Light and Life. This bears the interesting study of eschatology/dispensations....and how the papers compare to more traditional orthodox Christian 'interpretations' of the end times, not to mention the concept of the 'rapture' (again a kind of 'translation' of sorts)



pj

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

What is amazing is the providence

You and Caino seem to have a club made up of two posters! Nobody
else seems interested? Guess the urantia book isn't too popular these
days?

 

[freelight]

Real light on the matter.....

Real light on the matter.....

So the horses were also on fire:
11 "As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind."



That's hysterical!

We would note that the translation of Elijah in the firery chariot, is an ancient reference to the process of 'translation' itself, as well as a possible referent to an angelic transport of the prophet, which carried him into the heavens. The ancients would use terms like 'clouds', 'chariots', 'whirlwinds' to describe these wonderful phenomena accompanying transports.

Among those who do believe in UFOs and the Bible's reference to them, some posit that metallic craft of advanced technology were involved the 'appearances of God' and in various transport-events, such as Elijah's being "taken up", and the more detailed accounts of Ezekiels vision, of 'wheels within wheels', etc. Other instances of UFOs are alluded to as well in the guiding 'star' of Bethelem, the cloud and pillar of fire that guided the Israelites while in the wilderness, etc.

As we've shared,....this is another field of study in itself, set apart unto itself, as the UB does NOT concern itself with such. Some contend that the Dead Sea Scrolls also allude to UFOs of various types, described by the ancients in archaic 'terms', since they were limited by language. Again, another topic-discussion, of which I'm familiar,...since I've studied it some, and had a lengthy thread entitled 'ET Theology', covering much on the topic. Whether I'd begin a new thread on that subject again, is 'open', although sadly it would likely give the likes of some of the hecklers here 'fuel for the fire' to continue their usual polemics and ridicule, instead of seriously investigating it, and then engaging an intelligent creative dialogue about it. After all, that's what a discussion forum is all about.

For those wishing to explore any UFO/Bible connections, they can access this resource for information purposes here. Its recommended that one study (any subject) with an open mind, as it represents only one view and the opinions of authors who have compiled enough evidence to support their views.

Note: All views in light of further investigation and learning are subject to change. - this goes for religious beliefs and assumptions as well.

Another reminder: The UB has nothing to do with UFOs, neither provides any information upon them. Don't continue out of 'ignorance' to confuse the two.



pj

 

[journey]

You and Caino seem to have a club made up of two posters! Nobody
else seems interested? Guess the urantia book isn't too popular these
days?

It's hard to have a party when only two people show up. :dizzy:

 

[Aimiel]

One should note that ignorance of The Holy Scriptures is what leads one to being libel to swallow any lie one is fed since Jesus is The One and Only Truth about God. Jebus doesn't even exist. Neither do little green men.

Posted from the TOL App!

 

[Caino]

It's hard to have a party when only two people show up. :dizzy:

For a long time Christianity was a small cult inside Judaism, it's adherents were the disaffected fringe of society. Besides, we have lots of followers on this thread besides the unhappy trolls, they just don't post anything.