Pate claims infants and small children are sinners even though they haven't sinned.
The Gospel That Makes All Religions Worthless
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Pate claims infants and small children are sinners even though they haven't sinned.
Your questions are those of a 10 year old. Do you have a Bible? Do you ever read it?
Psalm 51:5.
fishrovmen
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You said you taught children Sunday School years ago (poor kids), you should know that when you interact with a 10 year old, you must lower yourself to their level of understanding and use words and illustrations that they can comprehend. Am I still over your head?
And by the way, I have many Bibles and read them, that's why I attempt to understand why much of what you post here is nothing like what I have been reading.
If you read your Bible you would understand the Gospel and justification by faith. My opening post is full of scriptures, you don't agree with them.
He was born with human nature.
"Because the carnal mind is enmity against God for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God." (Romans 8:7-8)
Epoisses
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Please enlighten us on how God condemns people from everlasting. Talk about the good news, that's going to bring truck loads of people into the gospel or should I say goat-spell!
fishrovmen
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You'll have to ask Pate about God condemning from everlasting; that's his doctrine, not mine.
Epoisses
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No it's your doctrine. Pate teaches that Christ saved the whole world in one fell swoop and then sent out 12 apostles to spread the good news. Hey, that's what we find in the bible and Calvin wasn't an apostle.
fishrovmen
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Feel free to show which post(s) where I claim such nonsense.
Epoisses
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Why don't you state your affiliation. It should be mandatory on these forums anyway.
fishrovmen
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We don't need any more label makers. Just stick with what people post.
Epoisses
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So are you some flavor of Reformed? There's only about a thousand varieties these days.
fishrovmen
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Raised Lutheran for 38 years, became a believer, attended independent churches
fishrovmen
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Epoisses,
So where's the post or posts where I claim to believe in eternal condemnation?
So where's the post or posts where I claim to believe in eternal condemnation?
Epoisses
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My bad, thought you were Reformed. I'm not perfect and I make mistakes. Thank goodness for that umbrella of grace I can hide under.
fishrovmen
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Why is reconciliation needed before you are even born?
The Inquisition according to Epoisses.
God has done his part. He sent Jesus into the world as the new Adam and representative of the human race to reconcile the whole world unto himself, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.
Our part is to receive the reconciliation that was provided by Jesus, John 1:12.
fishrovmen
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Robert, this is the portion that I am asking about. How can you be reconciled to someone if you don't even exist yet?