"The Divinity of Christ"

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Christ Jesus is literally God.

John 1:1-3 (AKJV/PCE)
(1:1) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (1:2) The same was in the beginning with God. (1:3) All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

 

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Christ Jesus is literally God.

John 1:1-3 (AKJV/PCE)
(1:1) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (1:2) The same was in the beginning with God. (1:3) All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

The Bible is the word of God, isn't it? Is the Bible God? Did the Bible make all things?

 

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The Bible is the word of God, isn't it? Is the Bible God? Did the Bible make all things?

Different "word".
There was a Word, and He took on flesh and became Jesus Christ.
There is also a printed word we can take with us every where we go.
I love both, but only one died for my sins.

 

[Right Divider]

The Bible is the word of God, isn't it? Is the Bible God? Did the Bible make all things?

Try not to be so Biblically ignorant.

John 1:14 (AKJV/PCE)
(1:14) And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

The CONTEXT of John 1 is NOT the "Bible as the Word", but it's JESUS AS THE WORD.

 

[JudgeRightly]

The Bible is the word of God, isn't it? Is the Bible God? Did the Bible make all things?

Different "word".
There was a Word, and He took on flesh and became Jesus Christ.
There is also a printed word we can take with us every where we go.
I love both, but only one died for my sins.

Try not to be so Biblically ignorant.

John 1:14 (AKJV/PCE)
(1:14) And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

The CONTEXT of John 1 is NOT the "Bible as the Word", but it's JESUS AS THE WORD.

I strongly recommend reading this post by @Clete regarding the meaning of the greek word ΛΟΓΟΣ (LOGOS):

Our Moral God

I disagree with Clete's hypothesis and agree with Derf. Here's why. God is three persons in one. Therefore the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are three distinct persons. A person cannot be an inanimate force or concept. Therefore love cannot be God. That would make God an inanimate force or...

theologyonline.com

And then continuing here:

Our Moral God

So you think a person, for God is a person, is a principle. Your equation of logic is therefore: principle == person and the reverse: person == principle. == equals "is equal to". By your logic you are a principle. Is that really how you see yourself? You see God as a person. God is...

theologyonline.com

 

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Different "word".
There was a Word, and He took on flesh and became Jesus Christ.
There is also a printed word we can take with us every where we go.
I love both, but only one died for my sins.

God communicates in various ways, He communicates what He wants us to know via the written word, the incarnate word and other ways. God knew what the written word would say in the beginning. He also knew what the incarnate word would communicate as well, in the beginning.

None of that was a surprise to him.

 

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I strongly recommend reading this post by @Clete regarding the meaning of the greek word ΛΟΓΟΣ (LOGOS):

Our Moral God

I disagree with Clete's hypothesis and agree with Derf. Here's why. God is three persons in one. Therefore the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are three distinct persons. A person cannot be an inanimate force or concept. Therefore love cannot be God. That would make God an inanimate force or...

theologyonline.com

And then continuing here:

Our Moral God

So you think a person, for God is a person, is a principle. Your equation of logic is therefore: principle == person and the reverse: person == principle. == equals "is equal to". By your logic you are a principle. Is that really how you see yourself? You see God as a person. God is...

theologyonline.com

God communicated himself via the written word and via the word in the flesh. The word, the communication, the message was with God, He knew what He wanted to communicate and how he wanted to communicate in the beginning. He fore knew all

 

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God communicated himself via the written word and via the word in the flesh. The word, the communication, the message was with God, He knew what He wanted to communicate and how he wanted to communicate in the beginning. He fore knew all

You have thoroughly deceived yourself.

 

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God communicates in various ways, He communicates what He wants us to know via the written word, the incarnate word and other ways. God knew what the written word would say in the beginning. He also knew what the incarnate word would communicate as well, in the beginning.

None of that was a surprise to him.

Why don't you capitalize the W in "incarnate Word"?
It was Jesus' name before He was made flesh.

 

[oatmeal]

I strongly recommend reading this post by @Clete regarding the meaning of the greek word ΛΟΓΟΣ (LOGOS):

Our Moral God

I disagree with Clete's hypothesis and agree with Derf. Here's why. God is three persons in one. Therefore the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are three distinct persons. A person cannot be an inanimate force or concept. Therefore love cannot be God. That would make God an inanimate force or...

theologyonline.com

And then continuing here:

Our Moral God

So you think a person, for God is a person, is a principle. Your equation of logic is therefore: principle == person and the reverse: person == principle. == equals "is equal to". By your logic you are a principle. Is that really how you see yourself? You see God as a person. God is...

theologyonline.com

Jesus is the message God wanted to communicate in the flesh, even as scripture is the message God communicates via written words.

What is so difficult to comprehend about that?

 

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Why don't you capitalize the W in "incarnate Word"?
It was Jesus' name before He was made flesh.

If you are aware of the Greek manuscripts you will find that capitalization vs. non capitalization is not the practice. It is all one or the other

 

[JudgeRightly]

Jesus is the message God wanted to communicate in the flesh,

That may be true, but that doesn't make the meaning of LOGOS "message" or "word" or what have you.

even as scripture is the message God communicates via written words.

What is so difficult to comprehend about that?

Nothing, just that it has nothing to do with what @Clete was talking about.

 

[Hoping]

If you are aware of the Greek manuscripts you will find that capitalization vs. non capitalization is not the practice. It is all one or the other

You are not writing in Greek.
Proper names are capitalized here and now, and the Word was a being worthy of such an honor.

 

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Jesus is the message God wanted to communicate in the flesh,

Jesus is not "a message". Jesus is God in the flesh.

even as scripture is the message God communicates via written words.

That is accurate, but does not confirm your "Jesus is the message..." nonsense.

What is so difficult to comprehend about that?

It's not hard to understand, it's just false.

 

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That may be true, but that doesn't make the meaning of LOGOS "message" or "word" or what have you.



Nothing, just that it has nothing to do with what @Clete was talking about.

Actually, you are right, it doesn't.

The reason is because logos means message or intended communication as far as the Greek meaning goes, thus any use in scripture implies message or communication.

 

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You are not writing in Greek.
Proper names are capitalized here and now, and the Word was a being worthy of such an honor.

If you look at an interlinear, you will be educated

 

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Jesus is not "a message". Jesus is God in the flesh.

That is accurate, but does not confirm your "Jesus is the message..." nonsense.

It's not hard to understand, it's just false.

If you wish to believe in a god with a multiple personality disorder, that is your problem, not mine

 

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If you wish to believe in a god with a multiple personality disorder, that is your problem, not mine

You lie about God constantly. That's bad. It's called blaspheme.

 

[JudgeRightly]

The reason is because logos means message or intended communication as far as the Greek meaning goes, thus any use in scripture implies message or communication.

No, it doesn't mean that, as Clete pointed out in the posts I linked to.

LOGOS means "reason" or "logic." It's where we get our word "logic" from, and is partly where we get the meaning from "biology," "theology," "geography," (-logy comes from "logos")

 

[JudgeRightly]

If you wish to believe in a god with a multiple personality disorder, that is your problem, not mine

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