Also, there is a word in the Greek for a female disciple, but it is not used for "the disciple Jesus loved."
The Disciple Whom Jesus Loved
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Also, there is a word in the Greek for a female disciple, but it is not used for "the disciple Jesus loved."
John 19:25-27 Modern English Version (MEV)
25 But standing by the cross of Jesus were His mother, and His mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. 26 When Jesus saw His mother and the disciple whom He loved standing nearby, He said to His mother, “Woman, here is your son.” 27 Then He said to the disciple, “Here is your mother.” From that time, this disciple took her to his own home.
25 But standing by the cross of Jesus were His mother, and His mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. 26 When Jesus saw His mother and the disciple whom He loved standing nearby, He said to His mother, “Woman, here is your son.” 27 Then He said to the disciple, “Here is your mother.” From that time, this disciple took her to his own home.
nonanomanon
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The Short Answer is no, there was no Women Disciple because Jesus does not teach them the gospel can be divorced. ................ Jesus goes on to say in Matthew 19:8, that when he appointed Moses as a representation of the Messiah, he allowed divorce. Jesus also named, "Moses and Elias (God)" as the two witnesses ................ indicating that at the end of time God would divorce his Gospel under Moses the Antichrist. That is the Short Answer, now here is the longer answer:
LUKE 20:27 Then came to [him] certain of the Sadducees, which deny that there is any resurrection; and they asked him,
LUKE 20:28 Saying, Master, Moses wrote unto us, If any man's brother die, having a wife, and he die without children, that his brother should take his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother.
Lets begin this way: If Jesus was not resurrected, then the "3 Days of Darkness, of Jesus being in the Heart of the Earth", would of been fulfilled when he was crucified. Jesus would of invalided Moses being placed into the Heart of the Earth, and thus, Jesus would of completed the Gospel. Jesus did not stay in the tomb for "3 Days and 3 Nights". Obviously the Argument of Jesus completing the Gospel is immediately Invalidated, but remember they are speaking to Jesus before he was crucified.
Lets Continue this way: Moses was placed into the Heart of the Earth, when he died, his body didn't see corruption. Moses did not produce the "BODY OF BENJAMIN/ufos that mark star wormwood", so MOSES DID NOT GIVE SEED. ......................... Now since Moses did not give Seed, they are trying to make the claim that Jesus Christ will give seed, that is that Jesus Christ will produce the "BODY OF BENJAMIN", when he goes into the Heart of the Earth. .............................. They knew based on what Jesus taught about "Going to the Father and sending the Comforter", and also naming the Apostle John as his "Loved", that Jesus clearly indicated the crucifixion was not a representation of Divorce. So they knew the "BODY OF BENJAMIN" was not going to be produced, so they instead attempt to assume that regardless of what Jesus claimed, his crucifixion and resurrection is a divorce (this is obviously a wrong position, but lets view it anyway):
LUKE 20:29 There were therefore seven brethren: and the first took a wife, and died without children.
LUKE 20:30 And the second took her to wife, and he died childless.
LUKE 20:31 And the third took her; and in like manner the seven also: and they left no children, and died.
LUKE 20:32 Last of all the woman died also.
LUKE 20:33 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife of them is she? for seven had her to wife.
3 Days of Darkness of Revelation. When the "3 Days of Darkness" of revelation is completed the 7th SEAL is opened. When the 7th SEAL is opened, the Divorce under Moses as the Antichrist is completed for 150 Days. ...................... They claimed that even though Jesus rejected the notion of divorce by reason of his crucifixion and resurrection, if "3 Days of Darkness", had elapsed the language of the gospel would be completed, and because Moses did not give seed, and Christ did not give seed, then God would allow mankind to take seed from the earth. This is clearly an invalid argument, the skies went dark for about 3 hours if we follow the gospel, that is no where near 3 Days of Darkness. ..................... We've stated a parable of Jesus being in the tomb for about 1 day was completed, the gospel does not say 1 day of darkness happened, it only says 3 hours of darkness happened.
(So you know where mass suicide by multiple acts of murder against the Antichrist, with or without some reasons or cause is popular, and why the gospel says in so many ways, the blindness of Jonah is revisited with Moses until the 12,000 Days of his Life Span of Revelation or about 30 years (Luke 3:23) are completed) (nightly walks to be resumed after second visit to the arrott terminal this week in the City of Philadelphia since the gospel names this as one of the churches).
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Ben Masada
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The Disciple Whom Jesus Loved
What are you implying, that Jesus was of the "Casa Nova" kind?
What are you implying, that Jesus was of the "Casa Nova" kind?
Ben Masada
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What is your question or what would you like discuss from 0-100 ACE?
What is your question or what would you like discuss from 0-100 ACE?
Ben Masada
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John was not on the Calvary at the time of Jesus' crucifixion for two reasons: First, because when Jesus was arrested in the Gethsemane "ALL" of his disciples forsook him and fled away. (Mark 14:50) The other reason is that according to Roman policy, for security purposes, none of the disciples of a crucified could approach the area of crucifixion. Besides, Jewish decorum would not allow for Jesus to commend his mother to a male disciple. So, he commended his mother to her own daughter-in-law which was Mary Magdalene. This had a home and could take care of Jesus' mother. John didn't even have a home of his own as he used to live with Peter. John was interpolated into the Calvary by the Fathers of the Church who meant to prevent Jesus from being identified as the legal husband of Mary Magdalene. That's all.
John was not on the Calvary at the time of Jesus' crucifixion for two reasons: First, because when Jesus was arrested in the Gethsemane "ALL" of his disciples forsook him and fled away. (Mark 14:50) The other reason is that according to Roman policy, for security purposes, none of the disciples of a crucified could approach the area of crucifixion. Besides, Jewish decorum would not allow for Jesus to commend his mother to a male disciple. So, he commended his mother to her own daughter-in-law which was Mary Magdalene. This had a home and could take care of Jesus' mother. John didn't even have a home of his own as he used to live with Peter. John was interpolated into the Calvary by the Fathers of the Church who meant to prevent Jesus from being identified as the legal husband of Mary Magdalene. That's all.
You are making things up as you go and that is why you cannot provide sources, or links to sources, to support your assertions. The Jerusalem Talmud is the older as it predates the Babylonian by about 200 years. The best you can do is to come up with information stating that it began to be compiled around 70AD/CE, (not 200BCE as you claim). However, if indeed it was around 70CE then it is clearly biased against the newly forming Christian community and for obvious reasons. There is no teaching before the advent of Messiah Yeshua that said or says a man must absolutely be married to be a Rabbi. It may be tradition but Yeshua predates the tradition so the tradition obviously seeks to nullify the teachings of Yeshua by disqualifying him as a Rabbi after the fact. In other words you are a day late and a buck short.
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Ben Masada
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You are not serious at all. All that you are after is to make people waste their time because you have nothing to say for a reply to a post which is not according to your Christian preconceived notions.
You are making things up as you go and that is why you cannot provide sources, or links to sources, to support your assertions. The Jerusalem Talmud is the older as it predates the Babylonian by about 200 years. The best you can do is to come up with information stating that it began to be compiled around 70AD/CE, (not 200BCE as you claim). However, if indeed it was around 70CE then it is clearly biased against the newly forming Christian community and for obvious reasons. There is no teaching before the advent of Messiah Yeshua that said or says a man must absolutely be married to be a Rabbi. It may be tradition but Yeshua predates the tradition so the tradition obviously seeks to nullify the teachings of Yeshua by disqualifying him as a Rabbi after the fact. In other words you are a day late and a buck short.
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You are not serious at all. All that you are after is to make people waste their time because you have nothing to say for a reply to a post which is not according to your Christian preconceived notions.
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Quite serious, and you have nothing to back up your assertions, as has been made perfectly clear. Likewise those who compiled the Talmud were for the most part Khazars. What you read in Talmud are nothing more than a "select" group of Khazar Rabbis sitting around trying to understand Torah, (and they never succeeded). And from that same select group later also came forth the Masoretic-Khazar Text between 700AD/CE and 1000AD/CE. And as was said to you before: it has many errors and many of them are blatant and obviously intentional.
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Don't read or comprehend very well do you. Let's try it again.
John 19:25-27 Modern English Version (MEV)
25 But standing by the cross of Jesus were His mother, and His mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. 26 When Jesus saw His mother and the disciple whom He loved standing nearby, He said to His mother, “Woman, here is your son.” 27 Then He said to the disciple, “Here is your mother.” From that time, this disciple took her to his own home.
nonanomanon
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A Question about Marriage ............ on second thought, this is a question about the "Gospel's declaration of its Marriage, being singular".
GENESIS 48:14 And Israel stretched out his right hand, and laid [it] upon Ephraim's head, who [was] the younger, and his left hand upon Manasseh's head, guiding his hands wittingly; for Manasseh [was] the firstborn.
(Manasseh was the "Head of the Priesthood", until the title was passed to the Levites under Moses) ......... Ephraim on the other hand is identified as the Tribe that God will use to record his Gospel, Jesus as the Lamb identifies Ephraim (the hebrew's genetic line) as his bride. (God did not name Manasseh, because it would indicate the title could transfer between tribes, like the Head of the Priesthood title transfers (since Manasseh held it at that time). The Tribe that is the Bride of Christ, was Ephraim and this title didn't transfer. Were not talking about the body of believers as the Bride of Christ, which are of the "Remnant of Isreal" ............. we are instead talking about a Tribe Christ called his bride, for the giving of the law.
When the Gospel was near its completion, which was given to the Jews, relative to his crucifixion. Jesus put on his Crown, "The King of the Jews", indicating that the Marriage between the Tribe of Ephraim as the bride had not been broken, there was no divorce. ......................... At the time of the Crucifixion, relative to that, (Aaron originally recieving the title of Head of the Priesthood when Peter was baptized as an apostle), Judah had took the "Head of the Tribes", and Aaron had took, "Head of the Priesthood" (Jesus divided their position because of sin). ....................... When this happened, Jesus was not declaring that he was going to Marry the Tribe of Judah, or the Tribe of Aaron, as the Bride that is allowed to recorded or keep the Law of the Gospel. The Gospel was simply going to be finished, and Ephraim would not be used as a bride anymore, Ephraim would not be divorced, nor would another Tribe be chosen.
A Few Thousands Years Ago .............
God allowed the "5 Foolish Virgins", at that time a picture of Samaria to take the "5 Wise Virgins" to marry, when God allowed Babylon to take the Hebrews from Jerusalem and destroy Solomon's Temple. God did this only to chastise the sin of the Hebrews. Babylon was not allowed to record the gospel, or to give Ephraim a gospel and replace Christ as the husband. ..................... 1 Chronicles 28:8-9 .................... Oded declares that the "5 Wise and 5 Foolish" virgins can remarry, that is the "5 Foolish Virgins can Marry Judah", instead of Ephraim. ........................ Now if Jesus was divorcing Ephraim as his bride, then, they thought that Judah could marry Ephraim and give them their law to carry, like God had done with Babylon when the temple of Solomon was destroyed. ........................ The Romans were going to destroy the Temple once again to signify their marriage ......................... that is an impossibility on two accounts:
1. 5 Foolish Virgins are only a reference to Genetic Dan, not Ephraim.
2. The Gospel allowed Samaria to take Ephraim as a bride temporarily, this was not going to be repeated. 1 Chronicles 28:8-9 ............... has language that describes a marriage between "samaria and judah", as the outcome when this marriage between "5 Foolish and 5 Wise" virgins happen according to Matthew 25 at the end of time, when the "Body of Benjamin is revealed", this is a marriage by fire. (more details in the "Clarence Larkin Chart" study).
Unfortunately, Judah was overzealous in branding Jesus as a criminal, and then the Church became overzealous in attempting to ensure that Jesus was crucified, then and finally the romans and the "new testament church, established under Peter as the first pope, under the tribe of Aaron became overzealous. They have remained in sin since, and now we should see the conclusion of this suicidal behavior very soon.
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Ben Masada
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You seem not to understand English or the English I use in my posts. What Jesus meant by saying, "Woman, here is your son" was a kind of apology for what he, Jesus had carelessly reduced himself to that condition of a disappointment to his parents. It was something akin to "Mother, I am sorry for having disappointed you by letting this happen to your own son. Please, forgive me as I know how this is killing you." Then Jesus said to the disciple whom he loved "Mary, there is you mother." And, in fact, Jesus' mother was Mary Magdalene's mother-in-law who took Mary along to her home and took care of her for the rest of her life. It could not be John because he was not Jesus' beloved, he was not there for obvious reasons, being one of them that John had fled away when Jesus had been arrested. (Mat. 26:56; Mark 14:50) And because of Jewish decorum, a Jew would never commend his mother to a male disciple.
You seem not to understand English or the English I use in my posts. What Jesus meant by saying, "Woman, here is your son" was a kind of apology for what he, Jesus had carelessly reduced himself to that condition of a disappointment to his parents. It was something akin to "Mother, I am sorry for having disappointed you by letting this happen to your own son. Please, forgive me as I know how this is killing you." Then Jesus said to the disciple whom he loved "Mary, there is you mother." And, in fact, Jesus' mother was Mary Magdalene's mother-in-law who took Mary along to her home and took care of her for the rest of her life. It could not be John because he was not Jesus' beloved, he was not there for obvious reasons, being one of them that John had fled away when Jesus had been arrested. (Mat. 26:56; Mark 14:50) And because of Jewish decorum, a Jew would never commend his mother to a male disciple.
Ben Masada
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And the novel came to an end. What do you think I am, a Christian whose statements of his novel don't need to be evidenced with a quote? I am Jewish Nonanonmanon, If I quote all my assertions I expect you do the same. Therefore, that's what I found this post to be, a novel without any truth to it.
nonanomanon
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HEBREWS 9:24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, [which are] the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:
HEBREWS 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
HEBREWS 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
The statement is also true for the Hebrews, they were taken into Babylonian Custody after the temple of Solomon was destroyed, and this was a picture of divorce as a form of chastisment ............ God only intended this to happen once as hebrews 9:28 indicates, so that the hebrews could be an example of rebirth for the nations. (Zion the Separatist Inheritance* of Judah, was chosen in the name of the Jews, the unity of "Joseph the Lion that redeems Judah (Rev. 5:5", was chosen among Judah by Ephraim according to Ezekiel 36:16-19)
LAMENTATIONS 2:17 The LORD hath done [that] which he had devised; he hath fulfilled his word that he had commanded in the days of old: he hath thrown down, and hath not pitied: and he hath caused [thine] enemy to rejoice over thee, he hath set up the horn of thine adversaries.
LAMENTATIONS 2:18 Their heart cried unto the Lord, O wall of the daughter of Zion, let tears run down like a river day and night: give thyself no rest; let not the apple of thine eye cease.
David's Chosen Tribe was Ephraim (1 Kings 11:13 Genetic Jews) ........ The Jewish people would be driven from all the nations, but they would not be eliminated, the "Apple of thine Eye would not Cease". They would be used by God to identify the "Heart of Judah or Zion", Judah's Separatist Inheritance* of a New Planet of their own. (By the time the Holocaust was completed, the Global Jewish population began to overwhelm the United States, and since that time, the Jewish Population outside of the USA is very insignificant) (The "day and night to forever" of Lamentations 2:18, restates Jeremiah 33:20-21, which says "Benjamin and Joseph" are separated by the "Key of David" when the "3 Days of Darkness begins", completing the assignment of the USA as the "Heart of Judah", because they have captured the "Apple of David, which was Ephraim", when the Judgment of Judah for 150 days begins to be done in less then 40 days from now).
All Human Life will be Terminated outside the "Heart of Judah, which is Zion", this is to be done soon
ISAIAH 4:3 And it shall come to pass, [that he that is] left in Zion, and [he that] remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, [even] every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem:
ISAIAH 4:4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning.
Only Human Life in the "Heart of Judah which is Zion", is allowed to life when Star Wormwood begins for 153 Days (Isiah 4:3). All human life must be terminated outside the heart of Judah, all nations must eliminated (Isiah 4:4). (that which is called Zion, has captured Ephraim) This is to be done soon. The Antichrist, we don't know who he is, intends to exterminate millions with a tsunami, but he needs a certain level of force to be done to him, in order for this to be done.
Significant of Progressive Diaspora (driving out from the nations) of the Hebrews
Recapping. God never divorced Ephraim, he just stopped using them to write the Gospel because it was completed. God would go on to use Ephraim to establish "Zion". .................. After Jesus was Crucified, the Early Church attempted to Prove that: 1) God divorced Ephraim, and 2) Ephraim became a bastard child because it could not receive the law of the New Testament Church. ....................... The Tribe of Aaron lead the Execution of Peter, as the Head of the Priesthood, entrusted with the New Testament Church, and Aaron later lead continual diaspora of the Hebrews. This is apart of Aaron's "War with God", that has continued since Aaron fell into the Assyrian sin of Worshiping the Golden Calf. God does ask for Repentance for Aaron, but they are to be terminated soon. .......................... So you can see how profitable, the enemies of the gospel have attempted to make the gospel invalidated by the elimination of the Hebrews ... this was apart of God's program to establish the "Heart of Judah or Zion", as apart of the process of faith. In less then 40 Days, all human life outside of the usa will cease, and all human life inside the usa not ascribed to judah will also cease.
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He said to Mary; Woman, here is your son. End of story.
nonanomanon
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(Cough, Cough, Cough) Maybe thats a little too much cardinal sin for the gospel. Jesus baptized the disciples so they could cast out evils spirits from the church. Jesus was going to complete his judgment, by the time that was finished, the church would of been full of evil spirits. ................. Jesus's mother was a picture of the church, Jesus told the church to receive instruction from the "son of man", and the Apostle John, attempted to do that so the suicidal campaign that began with Judas, did not continue with the Church, and ultimately with Judah and Aaron. ................... History says the Apostle John ended up in isolation, and he also finished the book of revelation ... this would not of been possible with those people living, they had to be deceased. We have more detail about these executions following Paul's deliverance from these murder campaigns, etc.
Regarding the inapplicability of Divorce from the Gospel's Program
Lets begin with the Prophet Oded, 2 Chronicles 28:9, God says it was not time to Marry Judah, so the "5 Foolish Virgins" were originally given Ephraim/Hebrews, and this was not to last. This says exactly what Hebrews 9:24-28 says, the Hebrews were taken in marriage by the "5 Foolish Virgins", but it could not happen anymore. Thus leaving a portion of Judah as a picture of the "5 Wise Virgins" the ability to marry a portion of the "5 Foolish Virgins (a portion of Dan). Yes, true but lets try something else:
Oded = Obediah
OBADIAH 1:5 If thieves came to thee, if robbers by night, (how art thou cut off!) would they not have stolen till they had enough? if the grapegatherers came to thee, would they not leave [some] grapes?
Perhaps the Prophet Oded is the author of the Book of Obediah, it says Jesus was taken in the Night in the Garden of Gethsemane to satisfy their divorce. This completes the language from 2 Chronicles 28:9, which made the statement that Judah wanted to marry Ephraim, since they could not marry when Samaria (a portion of Dan), was allowed to take Ephraim to marriage, in the days Solomon's Temple was destroyed.
Its not that the Book of Obediah was written in the New Testament era, its that Jesus fulfilled the prophecy of their blindness, which would satisfy the language of condemnation the gospels uses for isolation the Hebrews to the "Heart of Judah" to identify "Zion", their Separatist Inheritance*.
The Cardinal conclusion is that Jesus said to the loved disciple "Mother take your Son", or Mother rap* your Son", since Lot was rap*d by his daughters. That is not what Jesus implied, the New Testament Church is a body of sin and death, not spiritual renewal, generally speaking. God allowed them to sin to a degree then restrained their sin, this can also result in the loss of life. We don't see the loss of life promoted, because it simply interferes with their ability to continue in their sin.
Ben Masada
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So, God never divorced Ephraim, Right? Where is Ephraim today? What has remained as a People before the Lord forever is Judah, the Tribe HaShem promised to King David to remain as a lamp in Jerusalem, the city the Lord has chosen to put His name. (I Kings 11:36
So, God never divorced Ephraim, Right? Where is Ephraim today? What has remained as a People before the Lord forever is Judah, the Tribe HaShem promised to King David to remain as a lamp in Jerusalem, the city the Lord has chosen to put His name. (I Kings 11:36