ECT The Critical Link Between Belief and Obedience

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Let’s begin with Matthew 7 (Amp)

21 Not everyone who says to Me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven,
but he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven.
22 Many will say to Me on that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name
and driven out demons in Your name and done many mighty works in Your name?
23 And then I will say to them openly (publicly), I never knew you;
depart from Me, you who act wickedly [disregarding My commands].
24 So everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts upon them [obeying them]
will be like a sensible (prudent, practical, wise) man who built his house upon the rock.
25 And the rain fell and the floods came and the winds blew and beat against that house;
yet it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock.
26 And everyone who hears these words of Mine and does NOT do them
will be like a stupid (foolish) man who built his house upon the sand.
27 And the rain fell and the floods came and the winds blew and beat against that house,
and it fell—and great and complete was the fall of it.
So, those who do the will of Father God will enter the kingdom of heaven.
And those who are wise will obey the words of Jesus, and their lives will not end in destruction.
Yes, this Matthew 7 passage teaches that eternal life is CONDITIONAL.


It is the will of God that you keep (obey) His commandments
Matthew 19:17 • “But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”
Hebrews 5:9 • “He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him.”
1 John 2:3-5 • “Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments.
He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the
truth is not in him. But whoever keeps His word … By this we know that we are in Him.”
1 John 3:10 • “Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him.”

Scripture has several famous verses like this one
John 3:16 (Amp) • “For God so greatly loved and dearly prized the world that He [even] gave up
His only begotten (unique) Son, so that whoever believes in (trusts in, clings to, relies on) Him
shall not perish (come to destruction, be lost) but have eternal (everlasting) life.”
It has been pointed out that the Greek word for “believes” here is in the continuous tense!
So, this continuous believing agrees with about 10 NT passages that affirm
… one must endure in his faith until the end of his life to be given eternal life!
Yes, John 3:16 agrees with Matthew 7 that eternal life is CONDITIONAL.


Do all “believers” inherit eternal life?
Only true believers belong in God’s special “elect” group.
A true believer really appreciates what Jesus has done for him/her.
And the truly appreciative believer truly loves Jesus.
The one who truly loves Jesus has a personal relationship with Him.

John 10:27-28 • “My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.
And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish”
John 17:3 • “And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God,
and (know) Jesus Christ whom You have sent.”
These verses obviously agree with the “I never knew you” in Matthew 7:23.
Is anything hindering you from experiencing this? … pride? stubbornness?


True believers have enormous appreciation and love for Jesus, resulting in obedience
The one who truly loves Jesus will really try to keep (obey) His commandments.
Matthew 22:37-38 • “You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart,
with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the first and great commandment.”
John 14:15 • “If you love Me, keep My commandments.”
John 14:21 • “He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me.”
John 14:23 • “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word”
John 15:14 • “You are My friends if you do whatever I command you.”
1 John 5:2-3 • “… when we love God and keep His commandments. For this is the love of God,
that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.”
2 John 1:6 • “This is love, that we walk according to His commandments.”

Obedient believers practice righteousness, which leads them to holiness
Romans 6:16-19 • “you are that one’s slaves whom you obey,
whether (slaves) of sin leading to death, or (slaves) of obedience leading to righteousness
… so now present your members as slaves of righteousness for holiness.”
Hebrews 12:14 • “Pursue ... holiness, without which no one will see the Lord"
Acts 10:35 • “whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him.”
Ephesians 5:8-10 • “Walk as children of light (for the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness,
righteousness, and truth), finding out what is acceptable to the Lord.”
1 Timothy 6:11 • “But you, O man of God, flee these things (sins) and pursue righteousness”
2 Timothy 3:16 • “All Scripture… is profitable for … instruction in righteousness”
1 Peter 2:24 • “we, having died to sins, might live for (the practicing of) righteousness”
1 John 2:29 • “you know that everyone who practices righteousness is born of Him.”
1 John 3:7 • “let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous”
1 John 3:10 • “In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest:
Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God”

True love for Jesus is the critical link between belief and obedience.
 

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Let’s begin with Matthew 7 (Amp)

21 Not everyone who says to Me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven,
but he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven.
22 Many will say to Me on that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name
and driven out demons in Your name and done many mighty works in Your name?
23 And then I will say to them openly (publicly), I never knew you;
depart from Me, you who act wickedly [disregarding My commands].
24 So everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts upon them [obeying them]
will be like a sensible (prudent, practical, wise) man who built his house upon the rock.
25 And the rain fell and the floods came and the winds blew and beat against that house;
yet it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock.
26 And everyone who hears these words of Mine and does NOT do them
will be like a stupid (foolish) man who built his house upon the sand.
27 And the rain fell and the floods came and the winds blew and beat against that house,
and it fell—and great and complete was the fall of it.
So, those who do the will of Father God will enter the kingdom of heaven.
And those who are wise will obey the words of Jesus, and their lives will not end in destruction.
Yes, this Matthew 7 passage teaches that eternal life is CONDITIONAL.


It is the will of God that you keep (obey) His commandments
Matthew 19:17 • “But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”
Hebrews 5:9 • “He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him.”
1 John 2:3-5 • “Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments.
He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the
truth is not in him. But whoever keeps His word … By this we know that we are in Him.”
1 John 3:10 • “Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him.”

Scripture has several famous verses like this one
John 3:16 (Amp) • “For God so greatly loved and dearly prized the world that He [even] gave up
His only begotten (unique) Son, so that whoever believes in (trusts in, clings to, relies on) Him
shall not perish (come to destruction, be lost) but have eternal (everlasting) life.”
It has been pointed out that the Greek word for “believes” here is in the continuous tense!
So, this continuous believing agrees with about 10 NT passages that affirm
… one must endure in his faith until the end of his life to be given eternal life!
Yes, John 3:16 agrees with Matthew 7 that eternal life is CONDITIONAL.


Do all “believers” inherit eternal life?
Only true believers belong in God’s special “elect” group.
A true believer really appreciates what Jesus has done for him/her.
And the truly appreciative believer truly loves Jesus.
The one who truly loves Jesus has a personal relationship with Him.

John 10:27-28 • “My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.
And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish”
John 17:3 • “And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God,
and (know) Jesus Christ whom You have sent.”
These verses obviously agree with the “I never knew you” in Matthew 7:23.
Is anything hindering you from experiencing this? … pride? stubbornness?


True believers have enormous appreciation and love for Jesus, resulting in obedience
The one who truly loves Jesus will really try to keep (obey) His commandments.
Matthew 22:37-38 • “You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart,
with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the first and great commandment.”
John 14:15 • “If you love Me, keep My commandments.”
John 14:21 • “He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me.”
John 14:23 • “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word”
John 15:14 • “You are My friends if you do whatever I command you.”
1 John 5:2-3 • “… when we love God and keep His commandments. For this is the love of God,
that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.”
2 John 1:6 • “This is love, that we walk according to His commandments.”

Obedient believers practice righteousness, which leads them to holiness
Romans 6:16-19 • “you are that one’s slaves whom you obey,
whether (slaves) of sin leading to death, or (slaves) of obedience leading to righteousness
… so now present your members as slaves of righteousness for holiness.”
Hebrews 12:14 • “Pursue ... holiness, without which no one will see the Lord"
Acts 10:35 • “whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him.”
Ephesians 5:8-10 • “Walk as children of light (for the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness,
righteousness, and truth), finding out what is acceptable to the Lord.”
1 Timothy 6:11 • “But you, O man of God, flee these things (sins) and pursue righteousness”
2 Timothy 3:16 • “All Scripture… is profitable for … instruction in righteousness”
1 Peter 2:24 • “we, having died to sins, might live for (the practicing of) righteousness”
1 John 2:29 • “you know that everyone who practices righteousness is born of Him.”
1 John 3:7 • “let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous”
1 John 3:10 • “In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest:
Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God”

True love for Jesus is the critical link between belief and obedience.

Yes,

The knockers care little for the words of Jesus or the Prophets.

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False gospel of works from an ignorant Gentile who covets being an Israelite.


The knockers care little for the words of Paul as well.


Rom 2:3 And do you think this, O man, you who judge those practicing such things, and doing the same, that you will escape the judgment of God?
Rom 2:4 Or do you despise the riches of His goodness, forbearance, and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance?
Rom 2:5 But in accordance with your hardness and your impenitent heart you are treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God,
Rom 2:6 who "WILL RENDER TO EACH ONE ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS":
Rom 2:7 eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality;
Rom 2:8 but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness—indignation and wrath,
Rom 2:9 tribulation and anguish, on every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek;
Rom 2:10 but glory, honor, and peace to everyone who works what is good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.
Rom 2:11 For there is no partiality with God.

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The knockers care little for the words of Jesus or the Prophets.
The knockers care little for the words of Paul as well.
Instead ...
The knockers care for their pet doctrines.
The knockers care for carrying on in their deceptions.
The knockers care that they not be shown to be wrong.

I know from other issues (such as the end-times prophecies) that ...
some people just CANNOT emotionally handle some concepts which upset them!
My sister (age 66) is one ... she just cannot handle any negative talk about what is coming up soon!
One way out for these people is ... denial.

The whole of Scripture teaches that salvation is conditional ... both covenants!
The new one is better because it is easier for the believer to be an overcomer!

The few verses suggesting that simple belief is enough to be saved are misleading.
Because the rest of Scripture says otherwise.

CONDITION ... Minimum requirement:
At the very least, one's faith must be dutifully maintained until life's end.
 

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Instead ...
The knockers care for their pet doctrines.
The knockers care for carrying on in their deceptions.
The knockers care that they not be shown to be wrong.

I know from other issues (such as the end-times prophecies) that ...
some people just CANNOT emotionally handle some concepts which upset them!
My sister (age 66) is one ... she just cannot handle any negative talk about what is coming up soon!
One way out for these people is ... denial.

The whole of Scripture teaches that salvation is conditional ... both covenants!
The new one is better because it is easier for the believer to be an overcomer!

The few verses suggesting that simple belief is enough to be saved are misleading.
Because the rest of Scripture says otherwise.

CONDITION ... Minimum requirement:
At the very least, one's faith must be dutifully maintained until life's end.


Heb 3:1 Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus;
Heb 3:2 Who was faithful to him that appointed him, as also Moses was faithful in all his house.

Heb 3:12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
Heb 3:13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
Heb 3:14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;

Paul---

1Co 10:1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
1Co 10:2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
1Co 10:3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
1Co 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
1Co 10:5 But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.
1Co 10:6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.
1Co 10:7 Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.
1Co 10:8 Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.
1Co 10:9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.
1Co 10:10 Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.
1Co 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
1Co 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.

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The churches are not teaching this to anyone ...

1 John 3:10
“In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest:
whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God


This is why some spiritually-deceived believers see me as being totally crazy.
 

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JOHN 3:36 (NASB, considered to be the most literal translation)

"He who believes in the Son has eternal life;
but he who does not obey the Son will not see life,
but the wrath of God abides on him."


NASB © ................... Greek .... Transliteration . Strong's . Definition

“He who believes ......... πιστεύων . pisteuōn ........ 4100 ..... to believe, entrust
in the Son ............... υἱὸν ...... uion ............ 5207 ..... a son
has ...................... ἔχει ..... echei ........... 2192 ...... to have, hold
eternal .................. αἰώνιον .. aiōnion ......... 166 ....... agelong, eternal
life; .................... ζωὴν ..... zōēn ............ 2222 ..... life
but he who does not obey . ἀπειθῶν . apeithōn ........ 544 ....... to disobey
the Son .................. υἱῷ ...... uiō ............. 5207 ...... a son
will not see ............. ὁράω ..... horaó ........... 3708 ..... to see, experience
life, .................... ζωήν ..... zōēn ............ 2222 ...... life
but the wrath ............ ὀργὴ ..... orgē ............ 3709 ..... impulse, wrath
of God ................... θεοῦ ..... theou ........... 2316 ...... God, a god
abides ................... μένει .... menei ........... 3306 ...... to stay, remain
on him.”
 
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