The coronavirus scam

marke

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You failed to understand my question so I will ask again. Who has provided compelling proof that covid vaccines are dangerous? And to help let me answer that nobody has provided proof that the covid vaccines are dangerous enough to injest with risk.
Let's examine just one of many papers that deal with deaths resulting from covid vaccines.


In the complaint, Renz described an analysis from an unnamed whistleblower that claimed to find evidence there were actually 45,000 deaths related to COVID-19 vaccines. This finding is based on the whistleblower's alleged expert analysis of unverified data.

What has the CDC proved from the evidence? Nothing. It cannot prove the vaccines caused the sudden deaths nor can it prove the vaccines did not cause the sudden deaths.
 

User Name

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What has the CDC proved from the evidence? Nothing. It cannot prove the vaccines caused the sudden deaths nor can it prove the vaccines did not cause the sudden deaths.
So you are making claims that the vaccines cause tens of thousands of deaths based on no evidence whatsoever? Got it.
 

marke

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So you are making claims that the vaccines cause tens of thousands of deaths based on no evidence whatsoever? Got it.
No. I am saying the CDC's own records show thousands of reported deaths from the vaccine the CDC says it is not prepared to confirm were caused by the vaccine. The CDC stopped short of saying they were prepared to prove those deaths were not caused by the vaccine.
 

User Name

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You keep repeating this lie. Here is the truth:

  • The information on this website relates to suspected side effects, i.e. medical events that have been observed following the administration of the COVID-19 vaccines, but which are not necessarily related to or caused by the vaccine. These events may have been caused by another illness or be associated with another medicine taken by the patient at the same time.
 

User Name

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No. I am saying the CDC's own records show thousands of reported deaths from the vaccine the CDC says it is not prepared to confirm were caused by the vaccine. The CDC stopped short of saying they were prepared to prove those deaths were not caused by the vaccine.
The CDC doesn't know that the vaccines caused those deaths and neither do you, but of course that hasn't stopped you from claiming that the vaccines did it without any evidence whatsoever on your part. As the CDC website states:

"More than 380 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through September 13, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 7,653 reports of death (0.0020%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines."

 

marke

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The CDC doesn't know that the vaccines caused those deaths and neither do you, but of course that hasn't stopped you from claiming that the vaccines did it without any evidence whatsoever on your part. As the CDC website states:

"More than 380 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through September 13, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 7,653 reports of death (0.0020%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines."

The reason so many Americans refuse to take the vaccine is because they are aware of the many sudden deaths after vaccination that the CDC has not proven were not related to the vaccine. Since it looks like the deaths were caused by the vaccine and the CDC claims it does not know whether the vaccine caused those deaths or not the sensible thing is to refuse the vaccine.
 

User Name

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The reason so many Americans refuse to take the vaccine is because they are aware of the many sudden deaths after vaccination that the CDC has not proven were not related to the vaccine. Since it looks like the deaths were caused by the vaccine and the CDC claims it does not know whether the vaccine caused those deaths or not the sensible thing is to refuse the vaccine.
Over 380 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines have been given in the US alone, with 7,653 reports of death (0.0020%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine, and yet you claim that there has been "many sudden deaths after vaccination". That is a lie.
 

marke

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Over 380 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines have been given in the US alone, with 7,653 reports of death (0.0020%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine, and yet you claim that there has been "many sudden deaths after vaccination". That is a lie.
You keep downplaying the sudden deaths. Suit yourself. I am not lying when I say millions of Americans refuse to take the vaccine that has allegedly caused thousands of sudden deaths in people who were not previously sick. If the CDC does not prove those deaths were not caused by the vaccine then public officials are clearly wrong to try to force people to take the vaccine against their will. Besides, vaccinated individuals are being infected by covid at alarming rates, which tells reasonable Americans that the vaccine is doing nothing to prevent covid infections.
 

User Name

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You keep downplaying the sudden deaths. Suit yourself.
There is no reason to automatically believe that the 0.002% of people who died at some point after getting vaccinated died because of the vaccine. With hundreds of millions of Americans getting vaccinations, it is statistically inevitable that some few will die, but that is because people die every day from all sorts of natural causes, not because of the vaccines. Furthermore, you have no evidence whatsoever that the vaccines caused these deaths, but you insist on making this particular baseless accusation.
 

marke

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There is no reason to automatically believe that the 0.002% of people who died at some point after getting vaccinated died because of the vaccine. With hundreds of millions of Americans getting vaccinations, it is statistically inevitable that some few will die, but that is because people die every day from all sorts of natural causes, not because of the vaccines. Furthermore, you have no evidence whatsoever that the vaccines caused these deaths, but you insist on making this particular baseless accusation.
You support the unproven narrative that the covid vaccines did not cause the mysterious sudden deaths of those who got vaccinated, but just because you are willing to think the best of the vaccines without proof, that does not mean that millions of Americans who refuse to take the vaccine are willing to accept the unproven claim that the vaccines did not cause the deaths.
 

way 2 go

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You keep repeating this lie. Here is the truth:

  • The information on this website relates to suspected side effects, i.e. medical events that have been observed following the administration of the COVID-19 vaccines, but which are not necessarily related to or caused by the vaccine. These events may have been caused by another illness or be associated with another medicine taken by the patient at the same time.
the lie is the under reporting

  • Dr. Maria Gonzales, ER Doctor, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services: “All this is bull****. Now, [a patient] probably [has] myocarditis due to the [COVID] vaccine. But now, they [government] are not going to blame the vaccine.”
  • Dr. Gonzales: “They [government] are not reporting [adverse COVID vaccine side effects]…They want to shove it under the mat.”
  • Deanna Paris, Registered Nurse, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services: “It’s a shame they [government] are not treating people [with COVID] like they're supposed to, like they should. I think they want people to die.”

Screenshot_2021-10-01 Estimating the number of COVID vaccine deaths in America - Deaths pdf.png
 

User Name

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One of the most blatant of many lies that you have repeated. But why bother correcting it? If you wanted to know the truth, you've had ample opportunity by now.
 

marke

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One of the most blatant of many lies that you have repeated. But why bother correcting it? If you wanted to know the truth, you've had ample opportunity by now.
You have been badly misinformed if you believe truths are lies and lies are truths.
 
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