whitestone
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The Bible plainly says the Holy Spirit is given to those who obey.
You have to believe what is written.
Acts 5:32 We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him."
No one is saved without first believing and obeying.
The good news is not that unbelieving and unrepentant sinners are saved.
Jesus says if you don't believe you will die in your sins; and repent or perish.
Do you recognize the words of God?
The Bible plainly says the Holy Spirit is given to those who obey.
You have to believe what is written.
Acts 5:32 We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him."
No one is saved without first believing and obeying.
The good news is not that unbelieving and unrepentant sinners are saved.
Jesus says if you don't believe you will die in your sins; and repent or perish.
Do you recognize the words of God?
are you quite sure thats what it says? I notice that you reword what is said in Acts 5:32 KJV to make it say that the Holy Ghost is given to those who "obey"
In both the NKJV and the KJV the words that appear in italics were not in the original manuscripts and if we look very close at the details the words "so is" are in italics,and then were added. Removed they are saying that they were witnesses of the Holy Ghost and not that the Holy Ghost was the witness.
In acts 2 and in acts 4:31 KJV they were witnesses to the Holy Ghost so it makes sense that they would say that they were witnesses of these things i.e. Acts 5:29-32 KJV and why is in Acts 4 and 5 they are being both ask in whose name and authority they were speaking.
They were then told not to speak in the name of Jesus,of his Resurrection,that he was the savior ect. and then in the end they said that they should not obey men but instead God and why was that they were witnesses to his DBR and "the Holy Ghost".
This word is used only 4 times http://biblehub.com/greek/3980.htm yet this is the only one time in which you bring this point up. The word repentance is also used together with forgiveness of sins.
In Genesis 6:6 KJV "and it repented the Lord the he had made..." so he that made the earth Colossians 1:16 KJV and who is the image of the invisible God Colossians 1:15 KJV repented that he had made the earth. But this repentance of the creator is not as if he was asking the invisible God Genesis 6:5 KJV for "forgiveness" unless we suppose our own creator subject to sin in our creation.
I don't suppose any do think that,that the Son of God who is created an Savior need to repent to be saved,if so and he is the only Savior who will save him?
Obey and repent are words scattered throughout many books in our bible and are translated by translators in the context of the topic involved where these words exist. Again also are these words that the translators added to make the sentence flow to conform to their idea of what is meant.
At times bearing in mind those italics were added would change the meaning of the same text. In this case if they are removed the apostles are stating "they were witnesses to the Holy Ghost" if the words in italics are left in the Holy Ghost is the one "bearing witness" ,two different ownership's.
But what in the context of Acts 4,5 what were they being told to disobey was it not that Jesus of Nazareth was the very Messiah?