the beasts of Daniel

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Rondonmonson

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chrysostom said:
the beasts of Daniel


we need to use the Jewish temple to tie the four together
or
in other words

don't mess with the temple

The first two temples were destroyed by the Babylonian and Roman empires
so
they have to be our first two candidates
now
what is preventing the third temple?

the Dome of the Rock
so
Islam is our third candidate
and
different from all the rest

we are really looking for the second beast
since
Babylonian would be the first
Roman would be the third
Islam the fourth
so
that leaves us with the Median, Persian, and Greek kingdoms
and
all you have to do is ask which one messed with the temple
and
as it turns out Antiochus IV Epiphanes in 167 BC took over the second temple an installed the Greek god for them to worship
so
the Babylonian, Greek, and Roman empires
and
Islam are the four beasts of Daniel

I will also show how the last two beasts of Daniel are the two beasts of Revelation
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The Beast all have one thing in common, they all conquered or enslaved Israel. And it has nothing to do with the Temple per se. It is actually Five Beasts spoken of by Daniel. Nebuchadnezzar was shown all Five that lay in the future, he was not shown the Two Beasts that were already passed. Rev. 13 and Rev. 17 describe a Beast (conglomerate) with Seven Heads and Ten Horns. in Rev. 17 we are told the "Mystery: of the Beast that the Woman sit upon. It was Seven Mountains (7 Rulers that Arose not 7 Hills, the very next verse describes them) Five Kings had Fallen (Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece) ONE IS Rome, and One is YET TO COME,Revived Rome or the Anti-Christ and his 10 Confederated Kings.

Islam can not be a Beast, it could not have Conquered or enslaved Israel because God dispersed the Jews the world over until he brought them back per his Valley of Dry Bones Prophecy, and made them live again in 1948/1967 Six Days War. If Beasts could be anybody, then the USA, Soviet Union and the British Empire would be "Beasts" because they were more powerful. But these Beasts had to conquer Israel and the Jewish peoples.

Thus the last Beast, the one to come, can now emerge, since Israel is back in her homeland. It will arise out of the vestiges of the old Roman Empire just like Daniel chapter 7 says, the 10 Horns will Arise out of the Fourth Beast.........the Beast that is no more, but his head wound is healed. The Little Horn or Anti-Christ arises among them and the Abomination of Desolation then happens, according to Jesus' own words, the AoD can not happen until after the Gospel is preached unto all the world (Matthew 24:14) then the AoD comes in Matthew 24:15, then Israel is told to Flee (Matthew 24:16) then comes the times of trouble (Tribulation) like has never been seen (Matthew 24:21). The Last Beast arises at this times, brings a false sense of Security (Peace) to Israel, who let down their guard, then are conquered.

The Anti-Christ will destroy Islam along with all Religions. He wants to be worshiped as the ONLY GOD. The Harlot is False Religion, the A.C. and his Kings Destroy her.
 
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Rondonmonson

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Selaphiel said:
Why engage in unfounded futurism when the imagery makes sense within the historical context of the book? Put aside your irrational hatred of Islam for just one second and do not read your own prejudice into texts that were written 800-900 years before Islam was even founded.

The four beasts in Daniel 7 are: Babylonians, Persians, Medes and the Greek empire of Alexander the great.
The ten horns are the ten kings of the Seleucid empire that preceeded Antiochus IV Epiphanes who is referred to in Daniel 7:25 for persecuting Jews and attempting to destroy Judaism so they would adapt Greek customs.
It also matches the entire theme of the Book of Daniel which is to preserve Judaism when faced with other cultures and traditions.
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I agree with a lot of what you say. But the 10 Kings can not be of the Seleucid empire nor is Antiochus the one that defiles the Temple. Revelation chapter 17 explains this with much clarity:

Revelation 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. 13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

{{ So these 10 Kings were not in power or had no Kingdom at Johns time AD 90ish. But they were to receive their Kingdoms/power, one hour (short time) with the Anti-Christ (end times). And these King make war with JESUS when Jesus comes back. Now how can this be anything but 10 Kings that come to power at the End with the Beast/Anti-Christ and wage battle with Jesus Christ ? Jesus was born much later then your reference point. }}
 
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The "beasts" of Daniel seven are perfectly explained in Daniel and Revelation. First off what does the word "beast" signify in bible prophecy? There are rules to interpreting prophecy. All definitions of terms applies to all prophecy. In Daniel 7:17: "These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth." This is how the bible interprets itself. We never need to guess at anything the bible states otherwise we are calling God, and His holy word the KJV bible incomplete. Everything written in the bible is interpreted by the bible. We do not need any pastor priest nor whole denomination telling us their opinions about what the think it means.
 
chrysostom

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there will not be a third temple

There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down - mat 24:2

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) - mat 24:15
 
chrysostom

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chrysostom said:
the beasts of Daniel


we need to use the Jewish temple to tie the four together
or
in other words

don't mess with the temple

The first two temples were destroyed by the Babylonian and Roman empires
so
they have to be our first two candidates
now
what is preventing the third temple?

the Dome of the Rock
so
Islam is our third candidate
and
different from all the rest

we are really looking for the second beast
since
Babylonian would be the first
Roman would be the third
Islam the fourth
so
that leaves us with the Median, Persian, and Greek kingdoms
and
all you have to do is ask which one messed with the temple
and
as it turns out Antiochus IV Epiphanes in 167 BC took over the second temple an installed the Greek god for them to worship
so
the Babylonian, Greek, and Roman empires
and
Islam are the four beasts of Daniel

I will also show how the last two beasts of Daniel are the two beasts of Revelation
Click to expand...

it is all about the temple
 
Epoisses

Epoisses

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A beast is an angel and the horns on each beast are the human kings they control. For instance the Lamb-like beast who speaks as a dragon in Revelation has two horns. This beast is Satan the antichrist and the two kings that attend him when he appears will be the final pope and a Jewish high priest of a restored temple. Rome and Jerusalem will combine forces at the end when Satan appears as the false messiah.
 
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