Nang says God makes them do it. He doesn't decide they go to hell because he saw the future, he decided they will go to hell, then makes them they way they are. Nang, beloved57....all the Calvinists here agree. Some are just a little more subtil.
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Nang says God makes them do it. He doesn't decide they go to hell because he saw the future, he decided they will go to hell, then makes them they way they are. Nang, beloved57....all the Calvinists here agree. Some are just a little more subtil.
Nang, is it logical? The predestination to hell?
I'm trying to understand why it's a must for one to be predestined to heaven and hell.
And no ask mr wrong to lay out his websites. Not gonna spend time on that.
Just want to know why it is that the lost had to be created to be lost.
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I'm trying to understand why it's a must for one to be predestined to heaven and hell.
And no ask mr wrong to lay out his websites. Not gonna spend time on that.
Just want to know why it is that the lost had to be created to be lost.
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Nang
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Nope. Never said so. Never believed so. Never posted so.
All created men are subject to sin, because they are, by nature, less than their Creator.
Only God is God and God cannot be replicated, copied, or cloned. Men could only be created out of dust, and God knew when He created them, that all would fall short of His glory.
So why did God create men, knowing they could not and would not be sinless like Him?
That is the real question . . .
Any (biblical) thoughts?
Nang
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Is it logical that God would sacrifice the life of His only begotten Son to save undeserving sinners?
He who creates the beginning of all things has the sovereign right to determine the end of all things.
Nang
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I do not lie . . You just do not understand the doctrine of predestination, God's sovereignty, nor mankind's moral responsibility under the Law and Moral Standards of their Maker.
IOW's you have not received a decent biblical/theological education & teaching.
Oh, I see. So, according to your Calvinist belief system, Christ ONLY died for those who "DESERVED" to be saved. Whereas, He didn't shed His blood for those who were "UNDESERVING." Therefore, YOU deserved to inherit eternal life while myriads of others weren't as deserving as you, right?
Nang must be one "Righteous" woman in order for God to choose her to save. Nang deserved it though.
I've never heard a Calvinist be so eloquent about what they believe. I had no idea, they "DESERVED" salvation.
I wonder how they "EARNED" their favor with God?
Now I realize, you have to do it the old Fashion way, "You must EARN it"
According to Nang, she, AMR, and other Calvinists deserved to be saved. I get it now.
Thanks for straightening me out Nang. I always thought one had to hear the Gospel and place their faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. However, you say, "You only have to deserve it."
Hey, Nang, how many posters on TOL deserve to be saved/unsaved?? The key word being: "Deserve."
I'll bet you think only a few deserve it, right? Only you, AMR, and other Calvinists on TOL I would guess?
Thanks Nang.
Finally, some light (truth) is shined on the Calvinist belief system.
DESERVING is the key element.
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