It's not a copout, JR. Just my common-sense opinion that we're not getting anywhere
Well we certainly won't get anywhere if you drop out of the conversation.
and if I continue to push back on you, you'll ban me at some point.
Only if you break the rules.
Do you plan on breaking the rules if we continue?
If I told you I thought you the way you truncated my sentence so you could answer it in a different way as my original sentence was meant, and when I tell you that you say "so what," would you ban me for saying what I thought about it?
Probably not.
Because that's how I think it'll end up if we continue.
Supra.
But you are fine with heterosexuals propositioning kids?
Of course not.
If that were the case, you would clearly state adults shouldn’t proposition or mess with kids.
Adults shouldn't proposition or mess with kids.
Happy?
What you leave out of your post is telling insofar as your actual dedication to the issue.
Leaving something out doesn't mean that he supports it. It just means he (or anyone, for that matter) is focusing on something else that's more important.
I was a junior in high school at 16, and while I was not mature enough to have been successful at marriage I knew fellow students who were, both male and female.
Similarly I knew young women in the urban schools that I taught in who were thrust into roles of responsiblity at a young age for families that their mothers couldn't provide for and their fathers had abandoned. I believe they would have been successful in a marriage at 15 or 16.
And for much the same reason, young Amish women.
They were trained for the role. At 15 or 16 they had the training and the experience to take on the role, to keep a household, to care for children.
That's the clincher, isn't it?
Parents (especially mothers) of two generations ago were taught that it's ok (and to be clear, there's nothing inherently wrong with it) for women to enter to workforce, and are even encouraged to do so.
But that means that they weren't at home raising their children, especially their daughters, teaching them valuable lessons in maturity and particularly on how to be a good parent, so that by the time they reach graduation, they know little to nothing about raising children.
Those daughters now have children of their own, and while they've tried to be good parents, without the foundations that should have been provided by their mothers, they aren't the best parents they can be. And so they go to work, maybe have a few romps in the bed with a guy they like, and now she's pregnant and not married, and now has to work extra hard to support not only herself, but her child(ren) as well, and sends them off to some stranger to teach them in her place.
And now, those children are currently at this very moment going through high school, having sex with sometimes multiple guys throughout her high school life, drops out of school because her parent (singular) can't afford to put her through classes, being a bad example to her children, with no one to support her.
That's the state of the US right now, and probably most first-world nations.
And that's all before considering government welfare programs, and the psychological effects of no father figures in their life, and let's not forget the homos and trannies and pedophiles pushing their agenda into the schools these days.
All because the women of two generations ago didn't bother training up their daughters to be good mothers, and to seek a husband to take care of them.
What I wrote was that we understand that we CAN always be wrong, even when we think and feel that we're right.
What makes you so sure you're the one in the right on this? Are you not also included in that "we"? Or do you just exclude yourself because you must be right, there's no possibility for you to be wrong?
Because we understand that we're not infallible.
You apparently don't.
And we know this because we have often discovered that we were wrong about things in the past that we had been convinced at the time that we were right about.
What have you discovered that you were wrong about in the past that you were convinced you were right about?
Here is what I wrote: "They (not you) become a human; one among many, as opposed to imagining themselves to be some sort of infallible demigod,
NO ONE here is claiming (or imagining) themselves to be some sort of infallible demigod.
It's a straw man on your part to even make such a statement in this conversation.
lording their imagined righteousness
What if you're wrong that it's "imagined"?
What if it's ACTUALLY righteousness that we're promoting? Wouldn't that mean you're going against what is righteous?
over everyone they encounter." I did not say or imply that anyone is less than human.
Calling a human being anything other than a human being is, by definition, calling them less than human.
I said that some people seem to think they are more than human: they seem to think they are semi-divine.
Pretty sure no one in here thinks that.
Do you live under a rock, or something?
See my last post to Arty.
As you stated, it's against the law.
Just because something is against the law doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
No school teacher is sexually propositioning any kids regardless of their or the kids gender,
I'm just going to let you Google "Teacher arrested for sex with student" on that one, because it's blatantly false.
Again, just because something is illegal doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
And if it does happen, the kids, or anyone that knows of it (including you) should report it to law enforcement.
They should, but they don't, for various reasons, like fear of standing out, of repercussions, of nothing being done.
They would be investigated and prosecuted for it. Law enforcement takes that sort of thing seriously. And so do most school administrators.
Only when they're caught. Most of the time it's swept under the rug or ignored.
You should have told someone when you were a kid that you were being propositioned. You should tell your kids to speak up if anyone ever sexually propositions them, too.
My children (if I ever have any) will be homeschooled. They will never have to worry about any of this.
Sitting around imagining some evil hoard of pedophilic homosexuals has taken over the democrat party and the public schools and whatever else is just insanity.
We're not imagining it. Just read/watch the news.
And it solves nothing. If you actually KNOW of any instances of adults sexually propositioning kids you should report it to the police, immediately. They will investigate it, and even if it can't be prosecuted, you have shown a light on it and the pedophile in question will be under scrutiny in the future.
You sure about that?