ECT Reformed Theology

[MaxGrit]

What IS the beef?

I think it boils down to the common mis-perception of human freewill.

The reality of God dictates that it's impossible for man to have real freewill.

Man only has the appearance of freewill. From our perspective, it is equivalent to having real freewil. This is because we can't see the future.

What is Predestination?

 

[Doom]

What is your beef?

Are you asking what reformed theology's beef is?
Are you asking what beef others have with reformed theology?
Are you planning on attending a picnic with reformed theology?

 

[Cross Reference]

What is your beef?

"Where IS the beef" might be a better question.


They only offer up the 'bun'.

 

[MaxGrit]

Are you asking what reformed theology's beef is?
Are you asking what beef others have with reformed theology?
Are you planning on attending a picnic with reformed theology?

I am hungry now.

 

[genuineoriginal]

What IS the beef?

I think it boils down to the common mis-perception of human freewil.

The reality of God dictates that it's impossible for man to have real freewill.

Man only has the appearance of freewill. From our perspective, it is equivalent to having real freewil. This is because we can't see the future.

Why is Reformed Theology wrong?
I think it boils down to a misperception of the reality of God.

 

[Doom]

I am hungry now.

There is no meat in reformed theology.

 

[MaxGrit]

Why is Reformed Theology wrong?
I think it boils down to a misperception of the reality of God.

Which is?

 

[MaxGrit]

There is no meat in reformed theology.

What do you mean?

 

[oatmeal]

What IS the beef?

I think it boils down to the common mis-perception of human freewil.

The reality of God dictates that it's impossible for man to have real freewill.

Man only has the appearance of freewill. From our perspective, it is equivalent to having real freewil. This is because we can't see the future.

So man is but a mindless robot?

That is rather a mindless robotic concept.

 

[Doom]

What do you mean?

Heb 5:12

 

[chrysostom]

what we have here is a complete failure to communicate

 

[oatmeal]

what we have here is a complete failure to communicate

what do you mean by that?

 

[Nang]

What IS the beef?

I think it boils down to the common mis-perception of human freewil.

The reality of God dictates that it's impossible for man to have real freewill.

Man only has the appearance of freewill. From our perspective, it is equivalent to having real freewil. This is because we can't see the future.

I am a Reformer, and I receive the most opposition from the Antinomians on this site.

Lawlessness is advocated, defended, and discussed here, more than free-will issues.

 

[Squeaky]

What IS the beef?

I think it boils down to the common mis-perception of human freewil.

The reality of God dictates that it's impossible for man to have real freewill.

Man only has the appearance of freewill. From our perspective, it is equivalent to having real freewil. This is because we can't see the future.

I said
I think it would help if you would define freewill.

 

[MaxGrit]

So man is but a mindless robot?

That is rather a mindless robotic concept.

I'm pretty sure I didn't write about robots.

The reality of God dictates that it's impossible for man to have real freewill.

Man only has the appearance of freewill. From our perspective, it is equivalent to having real freewill. This is because we can't see the future.

 

[Crowns&Laurels]

The reality of God dictates that it's impossible for man to have real freewill.

Man only has the appearance of freewill. From our perspective, it is equivalent to having real freewill. This is because we can't see the future.

I'm pretty sure Calvin does not even teach this. You all take predestination too far :sigh:

 

[Cross Reference]

I would like to know how Adam could have made his choice or be tempted, for that matter, without having freewill to do so?

 

[MaxGrit]

God is sovereign, unchanging, eternal, omnipotent, omnipresence, all-knowing, etc.

God is there at all time & at all places, simultaneously. God knows everything, sees everything, and controls everything.

Can men have real free will from God's perspective? Obviously not. He already knows what we will do.

 

[MaxGrit]

I would like to know how Adam could have made his choice or be tempted, for that matter, without having freewill to do so?

Like I said, man only has the appearance of freewill.

We can't see or know the future. Thus, from our perspective, it's real freewill as far as we can tell.

Think of the Matrix. People live in the Matrix all their lives thinking it's reality.

 

[Doom]

Reformers are not saved, nor can they be. They deny that Jesus died for our sins (The Gospel), and therefore reject the once for all sacrifice of Jesus.