Reconciliation Cancels Out the Doctrine of Predestination

beloved57

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You can't read.

It says, "For if "WHEN" we were enemies".

They received the reconciliation and became friends with God.

You cant read, nor can you understand, they were reconciled to God while they were enemies, unbelievers, hating God, yet they were reconciled to God, How ? By the Death of His Son Rom 5:10 !

This One scripture is the start of the modern day reformation !
 

Robert Pate

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You cant read, nor can you understand, they were reconciled to God while they were enemies, unbelievers, hating God, yet they were reconciled to God, How ? By the Death of His Son Rom 5:10 !

This One scripture is the start of the modern day reformation !

Doesn't say that.

It says "For if "WHEN" we were enemies. Past tense.

They are no longer enemies because they received the reconciliation and became friends with God. Abraham was a friend of God, James 2:23.
 

beloved57

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Doesn't say that.

It says "For if "WHEN" we were enemies. Past tense.

They are no longer enemies because they received the reconciliation and became friends with God. Abraham was a friend of God, James 2:23.

Yes, they were reconciled to God by Christ death while being enemies Rom 5:10 !
 

Robert Pate

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Same thing, while being enemies or when we were enemies, that shows me you lack simple reasoning ability!

No it doesn't.

"For if when" is (past tense).

It does not say "Being enemies". It says "Being reconciled" (present tense).

This is what happens when you try to make the Bible say something that it is not saying.
 

beloved57

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The Bible is very easy to understand if you have the Holy Spirit.

This is why you have trouble with it.

This is very simple, a 4th grader can reason this, Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Now when we were enemies, is the exact same thing as saying "while being enemies" !

Matter fact, the ASV reads

For if, while we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, shall we be saved by his life;

For if while being enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, by much more having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.DLNT

You lack the simplest reasoning skills!
 

Robert Pate

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This is very simple, a 4th grader can reason this, Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Now when we were enemies, is the exact same thing as saying "while being enemies" !

Matter fact, the ASV reads

For if, while we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, shall we be saved by his life;

For if while being enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, by much more having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.DLNT

You lack the simplest reasoning skills!

You can't decipher between past tense and present tense.

And then you think that scripture cancels out John 3:16-18.

You are a hopless case.
 

beloved57

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You can't decipher between past tense and present tense.

And then you think that scripture cancels out John 3:16-18.

You are a hopless case.

Did you finish high school pate ? And Rom 5:10 proves that Jn 3:18 can only apply to folk Christ did not die for ! The enemies Christ died for, they are reconciled to God while being enemies Rom 5:10 !
 
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