recapitulation

[chrysostom]

:chuckle:

another great post by stp

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

another great post by stp

Can you provide a recap on your recapitulation of the recapitulation?

 

[patrick jane]

another great post by stp

Where have you been my friend? Eating?

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Where have you been my friend? Eating?

Isn't chrys in the middle of Lint?

 

[chrysostom]

Recapitulation is a theory developed to improve our understanding of the Apocalypse. Victorinus of Pettau in the third century was the first to show the same events were being repeated in different visions. Therefore the sequence of chapters cannot be considered necessarily in chronological order. Most commentaries on the Apocalypse have adopted this theory. It has also been described as parallelism

see what augustine had to say about this

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the apocalypse

this is a recapitulation

 

[Zeke]

More outward distractions to a inward event Luke 17:20-21. Secular history isn't what the scriptures are teaching.

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[chrysostom]

Secular history isn't what the scriptures are teaching.

we are talking about prophecy

 

[Truster]

The resumptive interpretation is correct. It is the only method that explains what is going on around us and what has happened historically. It also opens the eyes to the future.

 

[Zeke]

we are talking about prophecy

Nothing new under the sun Ecclesiastes 1:9. So the outward focus on worldly events shows Luke 17:2-21, Acts 17:24, 1Cor 3:16, ect hasn't pierced the programming of this worlds religious rulers that keep one a slave to tradtion Galatians 4:1, 2Cor 3:6.

 

[chrysostom]

the visions of the apocalypse are not in chronological order

 

[chrysostom]

the visions of the apocalypse are not in chronological order

this is important

 

[oatmeal]

THEORIGINALBIBLELOOKEDLIKETHIS
SOWEHAVETOASSUME
THEONESWHOADDEDCHAPTERANDVERSE
KNEWWHATTHEYWEREDOING

We should never assume

They did not know what they were doing.

That they guessed can be easily demonstrated.

Chapters and verses hold no authority

 

[chrysostom]

Recapitulation is a theory developed to improve our understanding of the Apocalypse. Victorinus of Pettau in the third century was the first to show the same events were being repeated in different visions. Therefore the sequence of chapters cannot be considered necessarily in chronological order. Most commentaries on the Apocalypse have adopted this theory. It has also been described as parallelism

see what augustine had to say about this

back to
the apocalypse

without recapitulation the apocalypse cannot be understood and you are forced to put everything into the future
-also-
you might believe babylon falls just before the second coming and the thousand years follows that
-it is not easy being a futurist

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

without recapitulation the apocalypse cannot be understood and you are forced to put everything into the future
-also-
you might believe babylon falls just before the second coming and the thousand years follows that
-it is not easy being a futurist

:chuckle:

Sounds like a harebrained scheme.

 

[chrysostom]

:chuckle:

Sounds like a harebrained scheme.

I know you are against work
-but-
if you do the work -
you might find something in history that fulfills a reasonable interpretation of prophecy

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

I know you are against work
-but-
if you do the work -
you might find something in history that fulfills a reasonable interpretation of prophecy

I am not willing to leave out 90% of the details of a prophecy to make it "fit" history.

 

[chrysostom]

I am not willing to leave out 90% of the details of a prophecy to make it "fit" history.

just give me one specific detail

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

just give me one specific detail

Nope. The prophecies are in your Bible. Write down each detail, and think about it.

 

[Tambora]

I am not willing to leave out 90% of the details of a prophecy to make it "fit" history.

Atta boy!

 

[Interplanner]

Recapitulation is a theory developed to improve our understanding of the Apocalypse. Victorinus of Pettau in the third century was the first to show the same events were being repeated in different visions. Therefore the sequence of chapters cannot be considered necessarily in chronological order. Most commentaries on the Apocalypse have adopted this theory. It has also been described as parallelism

see what augustine had to say about this

back to
the apocalypse

The Rev was a pastoral encouragement to early churches to endure through the horrible events of the 7th decade in Judea. It can still be used pastorally for persecution etc, and songs can be used for worship. But there isn't going to be an exact repeat of those events otherwise known as the desolation of Israel, Dan 8, 9.