themuzicman
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I find it interesting that many claim that all things are foreknown and/or predestined, and claim that this is based upon Scripture, and yet I find that most haven't actually looked to see what is foreknown and predestined.
This word study is fairly short, so I thought I'd post it here:
Christ's death.
Again, in some way, at some time, Christ's death was predestined.
Those who are saved are predestined (and foreknown) to be "conformed to the image of the son."
Israel.
So, we have wisdom that God (presumably) predestined to be known.
Our Adoption.
Inheritance.
Some saved people.
And Jesus Christ.
That's it. There's nothing here to suggest an eternal foreknowledge or predestination of all things. There's just a few, and the ones about us are all post-salvation.
This word study is fairly short, so I thought I'd post it here:
Acts 2:23 delivered over by the predetermined plan and foreknowledge of God, you nailed to a cross by the hands of godless men and put Him to death.
Christ's death.
Acts 4:27 For truly in this city there were gathered together against Your holy [t]servant Jesus, whom You anointed, both Herod and Pontius Pilate, along with the Gentiles and the peoples of Israel, 28 to do whatever Your hand and Your purpose predestined to occur.
Again, in some way, at some time, Christ's death was predestined.
29 For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; 30 and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.
Those who are saved are predestined (and foreknown) to be "conformed to the image of the son."
God has not rejected His people whom He foreknew.
Israel.
1 Cor 2:6 Yet we do speak wisdom among those who are mature; a wisdom, however, not of this age nor of the rulers of this age, who are passing away; 7 but we speak God’s wisdom in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God predestined before the ages to our glory
So, we have wisdom that God (presumably) predestined to be known.
Eph 1:He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will
Our Adoption.
also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will,
Inheritance.
Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ,
To those who reside as aliens, scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, who are chosen 2 according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, by the sanctifying work of the Spirit, [a]to obey Jesus Christ and be sprinkled with His blood: May grace and peace be yours in the fullest measure.
Some saved people.
17 If you address as Father the One who impartially judges according to each one’s work, conduct yourselves in fear during the time of your stay on earth; 18 knowing that you were not [r]redeemed with perishable things like silver or gold from your futile way of life inherited from your forefathers, 19 but with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ. 20 For He was foreknown before the foundation of the world, but has appearedin these last times for the sake of you 21 who through Him are believers in God, who raised Him from the dead and gave Him glory, so that your faith and hope are in God.
And Jesus Christ.
That's it. There's nothing here to suggest an eternal foreknowledge or predestination of all things. There's just a few, and the ones about us are all post-salvation.