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Are you meaning to say no one anylonger hears from God?
Are you meaning to say no one anylonger hears from God?
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It depends on what you mean by "hearing from God".
Romans 10:14 How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 And how shall they preach unless they are sent? As it is written:
“How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the gospel of peace,[h]
Who bring glad tidings of good things!”
16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed our report?”[j] 17 So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
“How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the gospel of peace,[h]
Who bring glad tidings of good things!”
16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed our report?”[j] 17 So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Resting in Him,
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Colossians 3:16 - that's what - "Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord."
Same answer.
Colossians 2:6 As you therefore have received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in Him,
Resting in Him,
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iamaberean
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If one is confused, it is because they don't search the scriptures for understanding.
1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
God created man and woman and told them to replenish the earth.
1. God created.
2. They were to replenish the earth and have dominion over everything that moves on the earth.
Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Gen 2:8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
God formed man from the dust of the ground, gave him the breath of life, and placed him in the garden.
1. Did not create but formed.
2. Did not send him out to replenish the earth, but put him in a garden.
3. Gave him the breath of life (Holy Ghost).
One can understand these seemly contradictions in scripture only if they have a paradigm shift. That would be to stop looking at Gen 1 and Gen 2 as the same event and see it for what is really is. Gen 1 is creation of mankind, Gen 2 is about God forming a covenant with one man.
1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
God created man and woman and told them to replenish the earth.
1. God created.
2. They were to replenish the earth and have dominion over everything that moves on the earth.
Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Gen 2:8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
God formed man from the dust of the ground, gave him the breath of life, and placed him in the garden.
1. Did not create but formed.
2. Did not send him out to replenish the earth, but put him in a garden.
3. Gave him the breath of life (Holy Ghost).
One can understand these seemly contradictions in scripture only if they have a paradigm shift. That would be to stop looking at Gen 1 and Gen 2 as the same event and see it for what is really is. Gen 1 is creation of mankind, Gen 2 is about God forming a covenant with one man.
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I well understand that, however, why do you think this was: "Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression,. . . . " Rom 5:14 KJV
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Whore that sits on seven hills, it's not Rome.
Jer 3:1 They say, If a man put away his wife, and she go from him, and become another man's, shall he return unto her again? shall not that land be greatly polluted? but thou hast played the harlot with many lovers; yet return again to me, saith the LORD.
Hos 9:1 Rejoice not, O Israel, for joy, as other people: for thou hast gone a whoring from thy God, thou hast loved a reward upon every cornfloor.
The beast is Rome.
Rev 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
The beloved city, Jerusalem, shall be devoured with fire.
Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
Luke speaks of about Daniel and the abomination of desolation that would come in the last day,
Luk 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
The tares are the Jewish unbelievers that are cast into the fire in Jerusalem at the end of the age of law.
Mat 13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. (age)
Mat 13:41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend (tares), and them which do iniquity;
Mat 13:42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Jesus said unto his disciples that the temple would be destroyed in the last day.
Mat 24:2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. .
Jer 3:1 They say, If a man put away his wife, and she go from him, and become another man's, shall he return unto her again? shall not that land be greatly polluted? but thou hast played the harlot with many lovers; yet return again to me, saith the LORD.
Hos 9:1 Rejoice not, O Israel, for joy, as other people: for thou hast gone a whoring from thy God, thou hast loved a reward upon every cornfloor.
The beast is Rome.
Rev 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
The beloved city, Jerusalem, shall be devoured with fire.
Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
Luke speaks of about Daniel and the abomination of desolation that would come in the last day,
Luk 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
The tares are the Jewish unbelievers that are cast into the fire in Jerusalem at the end of the age of law.
Mat 13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. (age)
Mat 13:41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend (tares), and them which do iniquity;
Mat 13:42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Jesus said unto his disciples that the temple would be destroyed in the last day.
Mat 24:2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. .
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How come?
Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
That is the means of said full knowledge...
Colossians 1:9 For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding;
2 Thessalonians 3:1 Finally, brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may have free course, and be glorified, even as it is with you:
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So I can read the written word to you or I can live the Living of Word to you. Which do you believe would be more effective?
Take in, and live out the one, that the Other might then live itself out through you.
1 Thessalonians 2:13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.
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Without the Living Word the written word would need commentaries to explain it. No pentecost, no Living Word and the why we have so much of religious man's effort found in the writings of the innumerable self help books and commentaries.
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Quote Originally Posted by iamaberean View Post
The man that God called Adam was the one who sinned, but death reigned over even those that had not sinned.
Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Rom 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Rom 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
Rom 5:15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
The man that God called Adam was the one who sinned, but death reigned over even those that had not sinned.
Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Rom 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Rom 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
Rom 5:15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
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So, how come it reigned over all irrespective of their righteous standing before God because Adam sinned?