No. That would be the lying, blaspheming Unitarians that you've single-handedly provoked me to oppose over the last month or two because of your arrogant and insolent ignorance and trolling. I've always been cordial and supportive of Socinianists in general, but you've shown that to be futile.
You forgot verse 2 here, where the Son poieo (that equates to bara in Hebrew from Genesis 1... "In the beginning, God created (bara/poieo). God, by His Logos, brought forth creation from noumenon as subjective phenomenon.
Uh-oh. The Son brought forth into tangible existence (poieo) the tangible aions (ages). Poieo is the verb referring to the doer and the done, with the doing presumed. The doing is the bringing into tangible existence of something intangible within, such as a painter or composer or poet bringing forth something from nothing but His own mind until it's manifested on canvas or paper, etc.
Poieo is the doing of the poietes (poet) with the result being the poiema (poem). NEVER is it about the action of penning words or notes, or about the brush strokes of the artist. It's only to emphasize the doer and the done as the finished work.
The Son is God's Logos bringing forth tangible creation from intangibility. That's because the Son is God's eternal Logos, not just some mental fiat as a plan inscribed on the heart of a human somehow created in Mary's womb over 4 millennia after God rested from creation.
You destroy anything relative to the Sabbath, whether literal or figurative. You leave man with no rest in Christ according to Hebrews 4, and you destroy the means of our partaking of God's divine nature.
You destroy the Gospel with your false concepts.
Ginomai may accompany an indication of a creative act, but predominantly doesn't mean that; especially when earlier in this passage He brought forth tangible creation as the literal Logos of God.
Fail. Twice.
Kata (according) doesn't mean what Unitarians want it to mean, either. It includes down from as motion, among other things. It's directional, such as by or upon, through or towards, etc.
Fail. Again. You're an expert in eisegesis. You don't read out of the text, you read your false doctrine INTO the entire text (just like most conventional professing three-"person" Trinitarians who are unwitting Tritheists.)
This is poieo, with God bringing Jesus forth from intangibility to tangibility. Procession, not creation. The internal eternal Logos became the external eternal Son.
God ceased creation in Genesis 2:1. No belated creation 4 millennia after God rested from creation.
Epic fail.
You don't know what pronoia and proorizo mean, so you sure don't know what this passage is saying.
This is the aorist participle passive of teleioo, to complete or finish; of reaching the goal. It was the suffering that brought Him to the maturity in His human nature, and consecrated Him by sufferings to His office and enabled Him to discharge it in His death.
This has nothing to do with Him being created, because God's Logos isn't created. This is about sufferings "making" Him in regards to accomplishing redemption for mankind.
Ridiculous fail.
You make a false binary, since Jesus was both God and man. The Son hypostasized into creation, taking on humanity. Of course He was a man, but not just a human. He emptied Himself of His form as God, taking on the form of a servant.
And you forgot verse 45, where the first man Adam was made (ginomai) a living soul; the last Adam (no reference of man) was made a quickening spirit.
You jack everything up with your rancid eisegetic cherry-picking, while avoiding scriptural truth.
Same as above. There was authentic humanity for Theanthropos.
Same again. Being humanity enables Him to succor us.
You're at least as bad as the multi-hypostatic Trinitarians with your myopic eisegetic nonsense.
ALL passages referring to humanity for the Christ are valid without being exclusional of divinity. ALL of those alleged proof-texts should NEVER be used for your fallacious position, just like 3-"person" Trinitarians should never mention personal pronouns as an apologetic for THEIR eisegesis.
You're dishonest and biased and deluded, just like most professing Trinitarians. Shame on you for being in the other ditch.
Rev 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;
Rev 4:9 And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever,
Rev 4:10 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,
Rev 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
Rev 5:1 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.
Rev 5:2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?
Rev 5:3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
Rev 5:4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.
Rev 5:5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
Rev 5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
Rev 5:7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
Rev 5:8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.
Rev 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
Rev 5:11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;
Rev 5:12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.
Rev 5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.
Rev 5:14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38?
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