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Welcome and we must not think that leading someone through a formula, or getting them to a meeting, will bring them to faith in Christ. The Holy Spirit must work in his own way and in his own time. He may choose not to work at all. It is his prerogative. He will not be manipulated.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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Welcome and we must not think that leading someone through a formula, or getting them to a meeting, will bring them to faith in Christ. The Holy Spirit must work in his own way and in his own time. He may choose not to work at all. It is his prerogative. He will not be manipulated.

You're a bit of an "unhinged" Calvinist, ya know?
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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Repentance was never an offer to any of humanity.

But it is a gift given in the New Birth to all the Election of Grace
Chosen in Christ to have forgiveness of sins Eph. 1:4,7; Acts 5:31.

But false religion teaches that anyone,
simply by exercising their own "freewill",
has the ability to repent and become saved.

But they are deceived.

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You're blinded by the words of John "Killer" Calvin!
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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Hi 1Way

Some of what you wrote above is good news, but it's mixed with bad news which makes it a perverted gospel. Paul writes that the gospel of Christ (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV) is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

That means it's not as you say, or even



I hope you stick around long enough to get saved (you can be right now by trusting the Lord believing the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV, Ephesians 1:13-14 KJV) and come unto the knowledge of the truth!

1 Timothy 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

1 Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

1 Timothy 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

AMEN!
 

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The World that God Loved John 3:16 are those He had chosen in Christ Jesus;
a small remnant of all of mankind, according to His Own Purpose and Grace 2 Tim. 1:9 before the world began.

The "whosoever" that will Believe on Him, are the same that were Chosen in Him.


The Apostle Paul speaking to the Elect Saints, the Faithful in Christ Jesus,
the ones endowed with the Spiritual Blessing of Faith Titus 1:1, expounded to them here:

Eph. 1
v.3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: v.4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: v.5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, v.6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. v.7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; v.8 Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence; v.9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: v.10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: v.11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will


Remember also, that the natural man has no ability, in and of himself, to please God Rom. 8:7-8,
and that includes believing on Christ.

But all of the Election of Grace Rom. 11:5 are given Faith in the New Birth Eph. 2:8; Gal. 5:22.

"A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven." John 3:27

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The words of John "Killer" Calvin run freely around each corner of your mind.
 

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Anyone can quote scriptures, but very few are given to understand them.

John 8:47 He that is of God heareth (understand/comprehend) God's words:
ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

That kind of "hearing" is not physical, by the natural ear, but is Spiritual,
and is only possible when one is Born of the Spirit of God.

1 Cor. 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:
for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

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i get the impression you aren't one of the very few - :cigar:
 

Nanja

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First hear the Grace Gospel then place your faith in Christ
as your Savior. That's where it all begins!



That's a false works gospel Gal 1:8.
It is NOT the Gospel of Grace the Bible speaks of.


Grace was never an offer.

According to the scriptures, Grace was Given by God exclusively to the Election of Grace Rom. 11:5
Chosen in Christ before the foundation of the world Eph. 1:4; the ones for whom He was made a Surety for Heb. 7:22
in the Everlasting Covenant. Those He represented were given Grace in Him.

2 Tim. 1:8-9 Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner:
but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God;
Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to
his own purpose and grace, which was given us [Election of Grace] in Christ Jesus before the world began.

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Sherman

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You gone and done it. You stepped into a debate in your very first thread. ;) Welcome to TOL!
 

heir

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Luke 13:3&5 "But unless you repent, you too will perish." "But unless you repent, you too will perish."

Mark 1:15 ..."The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: REPENT ye, AND BELIEVE the gospel."

Acts 20:21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

Luke 24:47 ...[Jesus said to them] that REPENTANCE AND remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

Repentance is part and parcel of the Good News of Jesus Christ.
Whatcha got there is not the gospel that is the power of God to save you. This is: 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV. Trust the Lord believing it and be saved.
 

patrick jane

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Repentance was never an offer to any of humanity.

But it is a gift given in the New Birth to all the Election of Grace
Chosen in Christ to have forgiveness of sins Eph. 1:4,7; Acts 5:31.

But false religion teaches that anyone,
simply by exercising their own "freewill",
has the ability to repent and become saved.

But they are deceived.

~~~~~



anathema - execration - :patrol:
 

Nanja

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Originally Posted by Nanja
Repentance was never an offer to any of humanity.

But it is a gift given in the New Birth to all the Election of Grace
Chosen in Christ to have forgiveness of sins Eph. 1:4,7; Acts 5:31.

But false religion teaches that anyone,
simply by exercising their own "freewill",
has the ability to repent and become saved.

But they are deceived.

~~~~~




anathema - execration - :patrol:


Prove it from the Bible, please.

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1Way1Truth1Life

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Whatcha got there is not the gospel that is the power of God to save you. This is: 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV. Trust the Lord believing it and be saved.

Repentance is part and parcel of the gospel. Without holiness no one will see God. But unless you repent you too will perish.
 

heir

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Without holiness no one will see God.
The standard is 100% righteousness of God. I have it upon me. How about you?
But unless you repent you too will perish.
Repent of what? Christ gave Himself for our sins/a ransom for all to be testified in due time!


Galatians 1:3 Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,

Galatians 1:4 Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:

Galatians 1:5 To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

...

1 Timothy 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

1 Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

1 Timothy 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

Trust the Lord believing the gospel of Christ and be saved!

1 Corinthians 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

1 Corinthians 15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

1 Corinthians 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

1 Corinthians 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
 

1Way1Truth1Life

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The standard is 100% righteousness of God. I have it upon me. How about you? Repent of what? Christ gave Himself for our sins/a ransom for all to be testified in due time!


Galatians 1:3 Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,

Galatians 1:4 Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:

Galatians 1:5 To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

...

1 Timothy 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

1 Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

1 Timothy 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

Trust the Lord believing the gospel of Christ and be saved!

1 Corinthians 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

1 Corinthians 15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

1 Corinthians 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

1 Corinthians 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

We all must needs to live in repentance.

Holiness is pursued. Holiness is not righteousness. Two different words with two different meanings.

14 Pursue peace with everyone, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord. Heb 12:14


37 Now when they* heard this,* they were pierced to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “What should we do, men and brothers?” 38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized, each one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Acts 2:37-38

Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation 2 Cor 7:10

"So then, even to the Gentiles Godhas granted repentance that leads to life." Acts 11:18

You believe there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that - and shudder. James 2:19

I have declared to both Jews and Greeks that they must turn to God in repentance and have faith in our Lord Jesus. Acts 20:21

In the past God over looked such ignorance, but now He commands all people everywhere to repent. Acts 17:30

Luke 24:47 ...[Jesus said to them] that REPENTANCE AND remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord. Acts 3:19

First to those in Damascus, then to those in Jerusalem and in all Judea, and then to the Gentiles, I preached that they should repent and turn to God and demonstrate their repentance by their deeds. Acts 26:20

14 What is the benefit, my brothers, if someone says that he has faith but does not have works? That faith is not able to save him, is it?* 15 If a brother or a sister is poorly clothed and lacking food for the day, 16 and one of you should say to them, “Go in peace, keep warm and ⌊eat well⌋,” but does not give them what is necessary for the body, what is the benefit? 17 Thus also faith, if it does not have works, is dead by itself.*
18 But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your* works, and I will show you my* faith by my works. 19 You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe, and shudder! 20 But do you want to know, O foolish person, that faith apart from works is useless? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he* offered up his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that faith was working together with his works, and by the works the faith was perfected. 23 And the scripture was fulfilled that says, “And Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him for righteousness,” and he was called God’s friend. 24 You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. 25 And likewise was not Rahab the prostitute also justified by works when she* welcomed the messengers and sent them out by a different route? 26 For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.*

5 And this is the message which we have heard from him and announce to you, that God is light and there is no darkness in him at all. 6 If we say that we have fellowship with him and walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. 7 But if we walk in the light as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin. 8 If we say that we do not have sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just, so that he will forgive us our* sins and will cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.*

Romans 6:1 What therefore shall we say? Shall we continue in sin, in order that grace may increase? 2 May it never be! How can we who died to sin still live in it?

Godly sorrow bring repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regret, but worldly sorrow brings death. 2 Cor 7:10

Repentance is part and parcel of the Gospel.
 
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