Omniscience, omnipotent ideas are humanity’s liability avoiding tactics.

stephengoswami

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Omniscience, omnipotent ideas are humanity’s liability avoiding tactics.
When preaching repentance we are repulsed by people Christians, Hindus and Muslims citing omnipotent idea of God. They say “Since God is omnipotent we can’t do anything against Him. So all we do is willed by Him. Therefore He is ultimately responsible for them, not us.” Poor people especially Muslims procreate uncared sickly children by uncontrolled sex, often becoming antisocial. They support their irresponsibility by “it is willed by God as we can’t do anything against omnipotent God”. Our effort to convince them by arguments fails. Criminals argue similarly.
For that Buddha tried to do away with the idea of God but failed. Atheists are also driven by similar reason. They also fail. Certainly there is God and gods, but never omnipotent, omniscient etc. all impossible absolute terms.
Real Uncaused Cause(God) is the Law of Love binding together everything. It, in the lower material form of gravitation draws Bosons together creating atoms. These in turn is drawn together making the material world. But every atom is separated from another by its repulsing electrons.
In the higher spiritual sphere it creates spiritual beings by drawing together spiritual particles like Bosons. These are united to create souls, angels/gods. Unities of saints, angels/gods are paradises. Their unity is God (see signature-God is the unity of heavenly parents) controlling the creation. But like electrons a wall of separation (pride) separates each spiritual particle, souls and soul societies from each other. When it gets strong enough it breaks those apart-- paradises, civilizations, nations, societies, souls etc. Neither the supreme Law of love, nor its created God can overcome them from outside. If that entity by its free will chooses; it can control itself and seek God’s help. For that repentance is needed.
So, God is not omnipotent or omniscient here. We can’t know “why’ now here, but may be in eternity where we may see the greater picture. So we must discard the injurious self-contradictory idea of omnipotence, omniscient etc. to conform to reality.

 

Letsargue

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God said preach the Truth, (( And )) Rebuke them who are liars, preaching things they ought not!!! --- Titus 1:12-13 KJV --&-- Isaiah 17:12-13 KJV ----//-- Therefore I rebuke you!!

Paul – 081112
 

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God is omnipotent and omniscient, but not how Calvinists and Muslims misrepresent sovereignty, etc. Retain the biblical truths and reject the misunderstanding of them.
 

Letsargue

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God is omnipotent and omniscient, but not how Calvinists and Muslims misrepresent sovereignty, etc. Retain the biblical truths and reject the misunderstanding of them.


Do you know how to show us, or explain to us all the Cross that Jesus said for you to take up?? - I suppose you did, and have it, and can explain yours!! - Also, is it Carnal or Spiritual?? - Some of the others may be able to explain theirs, or show us how that works!! - It must work, because Jesus said to take up the Cross, and follow Him. How does one do that??
Paul -- 081112
 

stephengoswami

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Do you know how to show us, or explain to us all the Cross that Jesus said for you to take up?? - I suppose you did, and have it, and can explain yours!! - Also, is it Carnal or Spiritual?? - Some of the others may be able to explain theirs, or show us how that works!! - It must work, because Jesus said to take up the Cross, and follow Him. How does one do that??
Paul -- 081112
If God is omnipotent, then our taking up cross or rejecting it makes no difference as What He will do has been determined alredy
 

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Omniscience, omnipotent ideas are humanity’s liability avoiding tactics.

No, you're conflating how some might use a thing with the thing itself. The author of all law, moral and physical, is by any understanding perfect in His understanding in relation to them. And if God is the Creator of all then He subsumes all by rational necessity. Omnipotence is similarly implied.

Real Uncaused Cause(God) is the Law of Love binding together everything.
I'd say that's a limited understanding of God's perfection. Unless you mean by love more than most who use it to step around moral consequence.

In the higher spiritual sphere it creates spiritual beings by drawing together spiritual particles like Bosons. These are united to create souls, angels/gods.
Okay, I see where you're coming from. We differ in ways that are pointless to address if that's your context.

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Letsargue

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If God is omnipotent, then our taking up cross or rejecting it makes no difference as What He will do has been determined alredy



Yes!! - God has already determined that you was going to act like a Fool in your Latter Days, and look at you; - you doing just as He predetermined!!

Paul -- 081212
 

godrulz

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If God is omnipotent, then our taking up cross or rejecting it makes no difference as What He will do has been determined alredy

Omnipotence should not be confused with omnicausality or determinism. God can voluntarily not use His all-power all of the time. He can also give creatures significant freedom and say so. The existence of Satan, evil, hell shows that your view of sovereignty/omnipotence is flawed (impugns His character and ways).
 

Letsargue

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Omnipotence should not be confused with omnicausality or determinism. God can voluntarily not use His all-power all of the time. He can also give creatures significant freedom and say so. The existence of Satan, evil, hell shows that your view of sovereignty/omnipotence is flawed (impugns His character and ways).


Yes!! - The Lord chooses to never ( Know ) the fools who deny Him. >>-- Matthew 25:12 KJV – “But He answered and said, Verily (( I say unto you, I know you not" )). ----//-- But that never stops the fools from thinking they know the Lord, and they don't even know what the Cross is that they are suppose to bear. - It is a commandment, -- but who obeys the Lord's Commandments these days??

Paul -- 081212



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