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Russia would have followed communism’s world dominion scheme worse that Germany, even by atomic world war, if not thwarted that way by millions of martyrs. For that communism failed, never by economic causes, as communist china still thrives.

:plain: Well considering that this is the only point not previously, soundly and totally refuted; I guess I'll pick it up.

:think: Ummm....The reason China still "thrives" is because it carried out vast market reforms beginning in the late 70's with the decollectivization of their agricultural base and allowing foreign investment. These reforms continued into the 90's with the privatization of various industries and in turn allowing them to contract/sell outside of the nation. Price controls were relaxed as well as protectionist policies and other regulations.

:nono: What China is now; is by no means "Communist" but rather a sort of wierd blend of socialist and market economies. The reason why so many people like yourself still consider them "Communist" is because to you, Communist is synonymous with Totalitarian.

If you ask me, the "ism" which they are most alligned with is Fascism.

The Soviet Union collapsed because when they saw the same handwriting on the wall that China did they doubled down on their system rather than instituting reforms...By the time they realized that reforms were unquestionably necessary it was much too late.

The Russians were stubborn the Chinese were not. You know what "stubborn" is right? Like when people correct your erroneous notions on all fronts yet you continue to cling to them anyway. Remember; that while tenacity is a virtue; stubborness is a fault...The trick is knowing the difference between the two. :juggle:
 

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:nono: What China is now; is by no means "Communist" but rather a sort of wierd blend of socialist and market economies. The reason why so many people like yourself still consider them "Communist" is because to you, Communist is synonymous with Totalitarian.

If you ask me, the "ism" which they are most alligned with is Fascism.

The Soviet Union collapsed because when they saw the same handwriting on the wall that China did they doubled down on their system rather than instituting reforms...By the time they realized that reforms were unquestionably necessary it was much too late.

The Russians were stubborn the Chinese were not. You know what "stubborn" is right? Like when people correct your erroneous notions on all fronts yet you continue to cling to them anyway. Remember; that while tenacity is a virtue; stubborness is a fault...The trick is knowing the difference between the two. :juggle:

Neither Christians are trully Christlike, nor Communism is really communist. It is all pretensions!!
Russian knew from the martyrs that even by economic reform nothing of true value could be achieved. So they gave up. Chinese had no true spiritual value. So they ran for reform.
If they had corrected me by Christ's spirit which they never had, I would be corrected. But they parrot catholic-made self and Christ-contradictory book to confuse me. Why I shall be fooled by them?
 

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Incidently dear Stephengo in nearby Southampton we have a very large Asian Christian out-reach working among all Asian peoples who have come to Britain, many have been saved and many have become strong disciples it is a great joy to have connection with them.

Although it was started by English the leadership is now more and more Asian and they worship in their own style according to their culture. They also have spread to other large towns and cities where there are large Asian populations. Praise God.

How do u know that they are saved? Do they follow the apostles? Or they have appointed Christ as their free guard while they enjoy the world.
You may say that My expectations are too high. So were Christ's expectations from us.
 

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What in the ( World ) are you talking of God about??? – God NEVER said anything like that. You just go on and on with the most diverse stuff and call it “Knowledge”, and the “Wisdom” of God?????????? ---- What’s the matter with reading God and speaking Christ the Word of God and leave out all your “Vinegar Leaven”.

It is really cool for me to see Paul be the one to bring sanity to a conversation.
 

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Please be an agent of heaven, not a procuring agent of hell!! "What you do to others, it will be done to you" Christ said. I feel concerned for you, brother! May Christ give you new heart
 

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Please be an agent of heaven, not a procuring agent of hell!! "What you do to others, it will be done to you" Christ said. I feel concerned for you, brother! May Christ give you new heart


That's NOT your calling to pray for that, it's Christ's!!!!!

Paul -- 040613
 

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There's absolutely no "Knowledge" in any of this Stuff; just Hate!! - The Knowledge of God is -- "LOVE"!! - Where is it???? -- The Knowledge comes from the Tree / Cross. - Hate cannot come from there, - but here: there is nothing but Hate, so where does that come from?? - Hell!!!

Paul -- 032313

Certainly Love/knowledge come from Christ, conquering the cross, our sin-instrument. Please dont see hate here as your intrinsic hate projects hate everywhere. Love.
 

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How do u know that they are saved? Do they follow the apostles? Or they have appointed Christ as their free guard while they enjoy the world.
You may say that My expectations are too high. So were Christ's expectations from us.

Nay, are you to be appointed judge Stephengo? will YOU decide who will go into life, who will perish?

How do I know? because Jesus said "If any man hear My words and believe on Him who sent Me he hath eternal life....and I will raise him up on the last day"

You are teaching people to save themselves, this is IMpossible to do, if I do not have the breath of life in me what can do? how shall I live?

Only God can give breath of life....FREELY, FREELY He gives to all who believe in His Son. This breath of life is the Holy Spirit.

I recieved Him when I believed and I recognise Him in others who believe. How wonderful....money don't count, religion don't count, education don't count. Black or white, male or female. None of these things count but faith only in Jesus.
 

Letsargue

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How do u know that they are saved? Do they follow the apostles? Or they have appointed Christ as their free guard while they enjoy the world.
You may say that My expectations are too high. So were Christ's expectations from us.


Come on!!! - Make up your foolish mind!!! -- You just (( Blasphemed the Apostle Paul )), and now you talk like one must follow the Apostles. -- AND you call yourself names; -- calling yourself a Christian!!!! - Someone ought to put a stop to such Blaspheming and Hypocrisy!!!! - Take up the Sword of God if you have one, it's the Word of God ( REMEMBER )??????

Paul -- 040713
 

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Come on!!! - Make up your foolish mind!!! -- You just (( Blasphemed the Apostle Paul )), and now you talk like one must follow the Apostles. -- AND you call yourself names; -- calling yourself a Christian!!!! - Someone ought to put a stop to such Blaspheming and Hypocrisy!!!! - Take up the Sword of God if you have one, it's the Word of God ( REMEMBER )??????

Paul -- 040713
Paul was not Jesus appointed but self-appointed apostle. I never call myself christian but worse than Judas.
I am not blaspheming but glorifying by presenting Father as Just and loving. Your are blaspheming Christ by calling me to take up Christ forbidden sword. The catholic made book is not Word of God but Living Christ is.
 

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Paul was not Jesus appointed but self-appointed apostle. I never call myself christian but worse than Judas.
I am not blaspheming but glorifying by presenting Father as Just and loving. Your are blaspheming Christ by calling me to take up Christ forbidden sword. The catholic made book is not Word of God but Living Christ is.


Just's a plain down right (( False ))!!!!!!!!!!

And you say that I do nothing but smear you foolish people!!! - I only show you that YOU SMEAR Yourselves!!!!!!!!

Paul -- 041513
 
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