New poll finds California voters resoundingly oppose cash reparations for slavery

Arthur Brain

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Well, that was even more boring.
Well, not like you bring much to the table to address is it? Some juvenile snark is pretty much it and dunno why you even bother engaging at all frankly. So, yeah, your responses and the behind the scenes smileys are just boring.
 

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If you had a *considered opinion* then it wouldn't be one that consisted of such ludicrous hyperbole and unsupportable bunk

Wow. The authoritarian Marxists tell me what my opinion should be if it is to be valid. Thank you for proving everything I said about you to be correct.
 

Arthur Brain

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Huh? Not interested in left vs right and authoritarianism?
You were answered with this Gary. I'm centre left and am bored to bits with overblown hyperbole and confirmation bias where it comes to politics. Political extremism is a scourge to society whatever end of the spectrum it emanates from but it's the far right that are well and truly on the forefront on that radar, both in the US and the UK.
 

Arthur Brain

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Wow. The authoritarian Marxists tell me what my opinion should be if it is to be valid. Thank you for proving everything I said about you to be correct.
Man, that's almost so unintentionally funny as to be adorable! Then, actually, nah, it's just flat out stupid...

You carry on though "Jasmine"!
 

Arthur Brain

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Facts and Civility
Oh I say, that's a bit off isn't it? Facts were already there but a lack of civility?!

What, did one forget to address by stature or use crude slang and sullying parlance to subvert an opposing position? For shame if so and one humbly retracts such sordid online forum shenanigans!
 

Gary K

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You were answered with this Gary. I'm centre left and am bored to bits with overblown hyperbole and confirmation bias where it comes to politics. Political extremism is a scourge to society whatever end of the spectrum it emanates from but it's the far right that are well and truly on the forefront on that radar, both in the US and the UK.
It isn't hyperbole . It's fact we have a Democrat president and administration and that all the prosecutors and judges are Democrats in the lawsuits against Trump. That is clearly factual. Don't take my word for it, investigate it for yourself. .If you refuse it is clear that you are being evasive and don't actually care about justice.
 

Arthur Brain

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It isn't hyperbole . It's fact we have a Democrat president and administration and that all the prosecutors and judges are Democrats in the lawsuits against Trump. That is clearly factual. Don't take my word for it, investigate it for yourself. .If you refuse it is clear that you are being evasive and don't actually care about justice.
It isn't just "democrats" that are involved in the lawsuits against Trump and I've followed proceedings for a while now thanks.
 

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Where do you get the idea God is on the right side of the political spectrum?

God is on the right side of the TRUE political spectrum, not the spectrums you're probably used to.

This one:
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It's based on the direction of the natural flow of authority.

God is right, and good.
God is the One who implemented governments and authorities.
All authority flows downhill from God.

From God, to government, to the individual. Within the household, authority flows from the individual, to his wife, to their children, and even the kid can kick the cat off the couch.

Thus, basing your politics on the flow of authority will naturally put God first, government second, and individual authority third.

There are no corrupt conservatives?

Of course there are, silly. Why would you ask that?

God doesn't take sides in politics. We either side with Him or we don't. He doesn't join sides with us.

Right, God is the one we should base our political stances on. Anything that goes against Him is to His left.

The nation of Israel is a prime example of this.

That God doesn't take sides?

Have you ever read the Bible?

The Pharisees were the political conservatives of their day and they murdered Jesus.

Ok, and?

Of all his posts that is is one blatant error.

Saying it doesn't make it so.

We are talking human political spectrums.

So am I.

He is creating a sort of religious spectrum where God is on the right and all other things are on the Left.

It's not a religious spectrum. It is a political spectrum, with God on the right, and everything else to His left.

You cannot be further right than God.

Sort of weird, but its all good.

Might I suggest that the reason you think it's weird is that your mind is tugging on your sleeve trying to get your attention to say, "hey, maybe there's something here that's worth looking at"?

My original chart was correct:

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Nope. Anarchy and mob rule are counter to God's principles of governance. Basing your political spectrum on how big the government is doesn't work.

Or do you really think that anarchy is a good thing?

I'm not real interested in concocting some pointless chart as it's an exercise in futility although I could hardly make one any worse.

I didn't ask you to make a pointless chart.

I asked you to make a better chart than the one Bob made.

The political spectrum as it is is fine and that includes nuances also.

Saying it doesn't make it so, and it definitely is not fine.

Repeating a fact will remain true no matter how many times it's stated or not JR.

Indeed!

Nazism/Neo Nazism is far right.

False.

Racism is leftist. All the leftists have been supporting Hamas and Palestine in their racist attacks of Israel, after killing a thousand Jews.

That's racism, and it's being supported by leftists.

Not right-wingers!

That's just the way it is. I get that you don't like it but eh, tough.

Right back atcha!

The Neo Nazi movement itself identifies as far right

Even Jesus Himself said "If I bear witness of Myself, My testimony is not valid."

Why do you think a bunch of evil racists' testimony would be any more so?

Stupid doesn't make you sin. Sin makes you stupid.

They're sin is great. They're also pretty stupid.

I certainly wouldn't trust them to know what is right or wrong (or left, for that matter).

and it could hardly be anything else given what it promotes.

Supra.

Deal with it or don't but your protestations mean squat effectively.

More subjective opinion.
 

Gary K

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God is on the right side of the TRUE political spectrum, not the spectrums you're probably used to.

This one:
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It's based on the direction of the natural flow of authority.

God is right, and good.
God is the One who implemented governments and authorities.
All authority flows downhill from God.

From God, to government, to the individual. Within the household, authority flows from the individual, to his wife, to their children, and even the kid can kick the cat off the couch.

Thus, basing your politics on the flow of authority will naturally put God first, government second, and individual authority third.



Of course there are, silly. Why would you ask that?



Right, God is the one we should base our political stances on. Anything that goes against Him is to His left.



That God doesn't take sides?

Have you ever read the Bible?



Ok, and?



Saying it doesn't make it so.



So am I.



It's not a religious spectrum. It is a political spectrum, with God on the right, and everything else to His left.

You cannot be further right than God.



Might I suggest that the reason you think it's weird is that your mind is tugging on your sleeve trying to get your attention to say, "hey, maybe there's something here that's worth looking at"?



Nope. Anarchy and mob rule are counter to God's principles of governance. Basing your political spectrum on how big the government is doesn't work.

Or do you really think that anarchy is a good thing?



I didn't ask you to make a pointless chart.

I asked you to make a better chart than the one Bob made.



Saying it doesn't make it so, and it definitely is not fine.



Indeed!



False.

Racism is leftist. All the leftists have been supporting Hamas and Palestine in their racist attacks of Israel, after killing a thousand Jews.

That's racism, and it's being supported by leftists.

Not right-wingers!



Right back atcha!



Even Jesus Himself said "If I bear witness of Myself, My testimony is not valid."

Why do you think a bunch of evil racists' testimony would be any more so?

Stupid doesn't make you sin. Sin makes you stupid.

They're sin is great. They're also pretty stupid.

I certainly wouldn't trust them to know what is right or wrong (or left, for that matter).



Supra.



More subjective opinion.
A monarchy is centralized big government. It is just as dangerous to freedom as any other centralized government.
 

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A monarchy is centralized

Yes.

big government.

No.

A monarchy is the smallest form of government. There is ONE (mono) ruler (archy).

The king has people under him that assist him in ruling, but He is the sole ruler.

It is just as dangerous to freedom as any other centralized government

Yes, all forms of human governments can be dangerous to freedom. Even monarchies, but they less so than all others, particularly constitutional monarchies.

But Monarchy is the purest form of government, and God instituted a constitutional monarchy for Israel.

He liked the idea of one person ruling. He didn't like the idea of many people ruling.

The issue you are bringing up isn't unique to monarchy, nor is it a result of monarchy specifically, but because the ruler is human.

You cannot have a human government (one with humans in it) without the possibility of those humans being evil.

Anyways, this is getting off topic, time to redirect to an already existing thread on this subject (which, Clete, if you read this, I know I have yet to respond to!):

 

Gary K

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Yes.



No.

A monarchy is the smallest form of government. There is ONE (mono) ruler (archy).

The king has people under him that assist him in ruling, but He is the sole ruler.



Yes, all forms of human governments can be dangerous to freedom. Even monarchies, but they less so than all others, particularly constitutional monarchies.

But Monarchy is the purest form of government, and God instituted a constitutional monarchy for Israel.

He liked the idea of one person ruling. He didn't like the idea of many people ruling.

The issue you are bringing up isn't unique to monarchy, nor is it a result of monarchy specifically, but because the ruler is human.

You cannot have a human government (one with humans in it) without the possibility of those humans being evil.

Anyways, this is getting off topic, tipe to redirect to an already existing thread on this subject (which, Clete, if you read this, I know I have yet to respond to!):

A single person is much more centralized than socialism. Everybody's liberty depends on a single person's decisions. Israel is a bad example in a world of sin. There were at least prophets of God to rebuke the king. Ia there anything like that in our secular society tosday? Nope. Therefore a monarchy is extremely dangerous today. All that has to happen in a constitutional monarchy is for one person to decide not to follow the constitution and it's worthless.
 

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A single person is much more centralized than socialism. Everybody's liberty depends on a single person's decisions. Israel is a bad example in a world of sin. There were at least prophets of God to rebuke the king. Ia there anything like that in our secular society tosday? Nope. Therefore a monarchy is extremely dangerous today. All that has to happen in a constitutional monarchy is for one person to decide not to follow the constitution and it's worthless.

Take it to the other thread.
 
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