gcthomas
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I don't think you know what 'jihad' means. You ought to look it up before you embarrass yourself further. ALL Muslims support jihad, but it doesn't mean what you hope it means.
Muslim countries have a religious test
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I don't think you know what 'jihad' means. You ought to look it up before you embarrass yourself further. ALL Muslims support jihad, but it doesn't mean what you hope it means.
brewmama
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It's really stupid to ignore history. How the Middle East, North Africa, Persia, Turkey, India (Pakistan) became Muslim shows how Europe and elsewhere in the world will become Muslim. Sooner than later.
lifeisgood
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Some might find this interesting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_To-cV94Bo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_To-cV94Bo
kiwimacahau
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ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
kiwimacahau
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Better than you apparently.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
kiwimacahau
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The process did not happen in one day. There were Muslims living in Turkey for many years before it became the state religion. In point of fact the Turkish constitution has been officially a-religious since Kemel Ataturk's time.
CherubRam
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Obviously no nation was Muslim until after the conception of Islam.
brewmama
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They became Muslim after conquest and war against the Christian Byzantine Empire. They take over by war or mass infiltration.
You can do that. You would have to change the Constitution first. And you would end up with a country that is quite different than the US you live in today.
CherubRam
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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Religious freedom
American views of Islam affected debates regarding freedom of religion during the drafting of the state constitution of Pennsylvania in 1776. Constitutionalists promoted religious toleration while Anticonstitutionalists called for reliance on Protestant values in the formation of the state's republican government. The former group won out, and inserted a clause for religious liberty in the new state constitution. American views of Islam were influenced by favorable Enlightenment writings from Europe, as well as Europeans who had long warned that Islam was a threat to Christianity and republicanism.
Religious freedom
American views of Islam affected debates regarding freedom of religion during the drafting of the state constitution of Pennsylvania in 1776. Constitutionalists promoted religious toleration while Anticonstitutionalists called for reliance on Protestant values in the formation of the state's republican government. The former group won out, and inserted a clause for religious liberty in the new state constitution. American views of Islam were influenced by favorable Enlightenment writings from Europe, as well as Europeans who had long warned that Islam was a threat to Christianity and republicanism.
gcthomas
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Under this measure, Turkey is not a Muslim nation, as it is constitutionally secular.
CherubRam
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In order for Turkey to be part of the EU they have to submit to certain rules.
What happen to all of the Christians living in Turkey? Why or how did they disappear?
Are you aware of the history of Turkey? It has been mostly Muslim for centuries- but modern Turkey has only been around since after WWI. Do you think that what happened there 1,000 years ago is relevant to the question of Turkey joining the EU today?
Trump: "I'm doing good for the Muslims"
gcthomas
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Which rules do you imply? Few of the EU nations are constitutionally secular, even though they are secular in practice, so Turkey's secular government is nothing to do with European rules.
CherubRam
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Turkey was the home to the Seven Churches of Asia mentioned in the bible. All of the first seven Ecumenical Councils which are recognized by both the Western and Eastern churches were held in present-day Turkey. Of these, the Nicene Creed, declared with the First Council of Nicaea (İznik) in 325, is of utmost importance and has provided the essential definitions of present-day Christianity. During the tumultuous period of the first world war and founding of the Turkish republic, up to 3 million indigenous Christians are alleged to have been killed. Prior to this time, the Christian population stood at around 20% of the total.
The Arab–Byzantine wars were a series of wars between the mostly Arab Muslims and the East Roman or Byzantine Empire between the 7th and 11th centuries AD. Started during the initial Muslim conquests under the expansionist Rashidun and Umayyad caliphs in the 7th century and continued by their successors until the mid-11th century.