Lon
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That'd be 'Lon' states. If you 'observed' this would have been the whole:Barbarian observes:
No He (Jesus) doesn't. I showed you, clearly, you were wrong. Scripture does say love your enemy and do good to them.
No He doesn't. I showed you, clearly, you were wrong. Scripture does say love your enemy and do good to them. That DOESN'T mean vetting a Nazi. Are YOU into that? You will have to use a LOT more scriptures to convince me. Go ahead. I'm listening.
Er, YOU brought up Hitler first :noway:(Godwin's law strikes again)
Alt-Reich: Nation.
SURPRISED? Who cares about Godwin's law? Are YOU a Godwin fan?(... fans of Hitler
:doh: YOU! It came from YOU!You want to vet Nazis? Where did that come from? Another straw man, um?
Alt-Reich: Nation.
lain:(... fans of Hitler
Er, ONE of us is losing.... Ahem lain:And another one. You brought a lot of straw with you today.
(random stuff from Lon about John Lennon and Germans being Nazis)
You're losing focus, again.
Go figure trying to elicit ANY love for Jesus or fellow Christians from you would get this kind of heartless and frankly mindless accusation.
Don't forget, I told you 'if' you are a heartless nonChristian, I'd give you problems for it on TOL, and I will. "IF" you are going to claim the name of Christ, I EXPECT Christian and will hold you to accounts. If you don't love the Lord Jesus Christ, just say so. Enough of this inane 'debate ploy.' I detest it. It is BENEATH Christians who say they love Jesus. Either stop or I'll HELP you stop it. We are definitely going to see who does and doesn't love the Lord Jesus Christ. That would be the goal, I'd hope, for either of us.
No! Stop it! "IF" I bring up loving Him, it IS because I expect loving Him to be the goal. 1) First I appreciate the verse. 2) I said I realized others did say that but it by NO MEANS invited you to try and grade my Christianity for me. Just because 'you' don't like it doesn't mean I'm not doing a good job. Sorry, that ship ain't gonna sail. Now take your medicine. Nobody BUT somebody that cares is going to give it to you. I don't CARE if a Muslim hasn't said such things to you. It doesn't make him/her a good guy. :nono: Not at all. It doesn't mean they love you. STOP equating 'letting me do whatever I want with no reprise' as love. No, Barbarian. No I have not been unloving toward you. You are being two-faced also. You are calling me on the carpet, saying I do a lousy job and in the NEXT breath trying to tell me YOU work on it. If you are trying, try a little harder :think:It seems to be a favorite ploy on the far right. No one cares what you think now. If you're a Christian, you're not doing a very good job of following Him. Sometimes, I don't either. But I try my best. And that is what He asks me to do.
Good verse. Not sure of the context for it.1 Corinthians 10:13 Let no temptation take hold on you, but such as is human. And God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that which you are able: but will make also with temptation issue, that you may be able to bear it.
:nono: Poor choice of words and accusation.I notice you've avoided declaring him.
Yes. I hold to the Creed.So let's get that out of the way.
This is what Christians believe:
I believe in God, the Father almighty,
creator of heaven and earth.
I believe in Jesus Christ, God's only Son, our Lord,
who was conceived by the Holy Spirit,
born of the Virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried;
he descended to the dead.
On the third day he rose again;
he ascended into heaven,
he is seated at the right hand of the Father,
and he will come to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy catholic Church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting. Amen
So just tell me that you believe this, and we'll know that you are indeed with Him. Will you do it?
Not sure why you asked the same thing the same way. Yes, I affirm the creed.You can settle that by verifying that you believe what Christians believe. Will you?
Uh oh. So I have to agree to YOUR interpretation of it? I 'might' but as you say, let's see :think:Let's take a look...
The Church knows that she is joined in many ways to the baptized who are honoured by the name of Christian, but who do not however profess the Catholic faith in its entirety or have not preserved unity or communion under the successor of Peter.[14] For there are many who hold sacred scripture in honour as a rule of faith and of life, who have a sincere religious zeal, who lovingly believe in God the Father Almighty and in Christ, the Son of God and the Saviour,[15] who are sealed by baptism which unites them to Christ, and who indeed recognize and receive other sacraments in their own Churches or ecclesiastical communities. Many of them possess the episcopate, celebrate the holy Eucharist and cultivate devotion of the Virgin Mother of God.[16] There is furthermore a sharing in prayer and spiritual benefits; these Christians are indeed in some real way joined to us in the Holy Spirit for, by his gifts and graces, his sanctifying power is also active in them and he has strengthened some of them even to the shedding of their blood.
Why then, did you say "I" persecute you and place me as a nonbeliever?DOGMATIC CONSTITUTION ON THE CHURCH - LUMEN GENTIUM
Promulgated By His Holiness, Pope Paul VI on November 21, 1964
YOU brought it up AGAINST me! :doh:Now, you seem to realize that it was a bad idea to even bring that up, um?
Aren't you claiming to be a Christian? Jesus said that the world would hate us, and many of you do.
Third time a charm? I affirm the creed.Just affirm the faith and then everyone will know.
That is fine. It does NOT mean you have to vet criminal behavior. You CAN be a good neighbor without doing that (more now in a second):I can oppose people without hating them or even thinking that they are evil. They are, after all, my neighbors.
See? They may be 'neighbors' but loving them does NOT demand you vet them.(random stuff about John Lennon and Al Capone)
GREAT! That does NOT mean giving them your child to murder! THAT wouldn't be loving. It may ALSO mean you say 'no' when they ask to enter your country. That too is NOT an unloving thing.If you serve Jesus, then you need to accept that even your enemies are your neighbors, and you need to love them. If you can't do that, you are serving a different master.
:chuckle: No, it really doesn't. I've called you on your own problematic conveyances. I'm a LOT less lazy than you, however. I've figured out a few of your intents. That's what a caring guy does. A GOOD academic ALSO tries to not blame another for his/her own lack in reading retention.This obviously troubles you a great deal. And a lot of what you've written is confused and wanders off into other things.
Simply re-reading you, and a few things are clear. If not, I've asked you. You? Petty and the lesser man for it I told you, I KNOW what my ability is and know what I've conveyed and have not. Better than you too, more than obviously. It means: TRY HARDER. You are simply trying to one-up me again. You can't. Stop it.
He IS Lord. There is no 'let' Him be. He already is, even 'if' someone doesn't want Him to be. Won't work: Colossians 1:17 John 15:5Let Jesus be Lord, and it will cease to trouble you.
Again, think more before trying to come up with a closer statement. Most of the time they aren't needed. -Lon