Interplanner
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If any of the D'ist beliefs are true, the conflict with Judaism and the problem of Peter's capitulation vanish. They are simply non-issues that never happened.
ECT MAD and the conflicts with Judaism and Peter
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SaulToPaul 2
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What?
You posted on that already; some time back.
But, desperate measures call - well, for desperate measures...repeated :chuckle:
I was wonderin' th' same thing.
What kind of OP is that?
Interplanner
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Tell me what the friction between the Christian message and Judaism, and between Peter and Paul was, and I will will show you how D'ism comes down on the side of Judaism.
There are deep connections between D'ism and Judaism and we all know MAD says the OT runs a certain distance in to Acts, TBD.
If you believe things like that, the point of friction between the Gospel of Ps 2, 16 and 110 and Judaism disappears into thin air.
Interplanner
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Take your psych ops somewhere else. It is disgusting that you think you do theological work here ,but all it is is psych ops. If you have an aspect of the question to discuss, go ahead.
Watch it, or I'll stop translating your high falutin hoity toity to others for ya; that they might make sense of your "intellectual" gobbledygook :chuckle:
And let us know when you get around to doing some actual "theological" work.
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SaulToPaul 2
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Take it easy on Danoh, he is the only TOLer who can descramble your posts.
Interplanner
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What is the friction between the Gospel community and Judiasm? Between Peter and Paul?
Still no answers, just insecure posturing.
Still no answers, just insecure posturing.
SaulToPaul 2
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The gospel community, :chuckle:
What friction? There was no friction between the messages, or the people. And there was no disappearance into thin air. The prior dispensation ran well beyond Acts.
And if you want proof that Paul preached a different message than the 12 read Acts 15.
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What conflicts?
Welcome to MAD.
If it is a non-issue, then something happened, but doesn't matter. So which is it?
Interplanner
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Nick wrote:
What conflicts?
And there we have it. Isn't it amazing how misunderstood the Bible is today.
You take a story. The story has a protagonist or group of them. They are opposed by ANTAGONISTS. The conflict is what makes it an exciting, inspiring story!
So what does D'ism produce: people who don't see any conflict, don't see any antagonists!
What conflicts?
And there we have it. Isn't it amazing how misunderstood the Bible is today.
You take a story. The story has a protagonist or group of them. They are opposed by ANTAGONISTS. The conflict is what makes it an exciting, inspiring story!
So what does D'ism produce: people who don't see any conflict, don't see any antagonists!
Interplanner
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lol about Acts 15 because his sample in Acts 13 SAYS THE SAME THINGS THAT ACTS 2 AND 3 SAID. He shows Israel sinning but in that same tragedy Christ is justification from all sin for all who believe. And that these things were what was promised to the fathers.
This was totally unacceptable to Judaism, as you can tell, if notice the reaction of Judaism's leaders!! (What else would you notice, lol).
Are you just rambling?
How about you take the time to lay out an actual argument?
“But some of the sect of the Pharisees who believed rose up, saying, 'It is necessary to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.'”
Acts 15:5
Why would they say this if they were not keeping the Law? And remember, these were people who were believers as a result of the preaching of the 12. This shows the 12 were preaching the Law.
So, what part of the chapters you referenced do you think is so important?
And why did that issue arise so many years later and only AFTER the Gentiles were FIRST allowed in as GENTILES?
Because keeping the Law was what those under Peter had RIGHTLY continued under - all - that - time - prior - to - Acts 10 forward - AFTER the issue of whether or not - the Gentiles - were - to - do - so - also - FIRST arose.
Likwise MANY years later....
Acts 21:18 And the day following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present. 21:19 And when he had saluted them, he declared particularly what things God had wrought among the Gentiles by his ministry. 21:20 And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law: 21:21 And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs.
21:25 As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication.
Duh - UH!!!
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