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Originally posted by LivingDeadDoll

It's 168 to be exact, sorry to be so vague.

I could use paragraphs to make it easier to read, yes. I just don't have the mind set to do so when I am angry. Kind of like when I forget to take a breath when I am ranting. However, if you will note, I have accomodated you with the capitalization of my I's.

Thank you, that is much better.
 

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I asked you a few follow up questions, I thought you'd be interested in answering.

I'll ask them here, instead.

When I asked if your children know about your drug use, use said "no".

When I asked what you will say when they find out about it, you said "They will not find out about it".

Now, you know that my boys are aware that I drink beer, they have seen me with a beer in my hand many times. That being the case:

What is the difference between pot and beer?

Why won't you let your kids know that you smoke pot?

Why not just fire up a joint and smoke it right in front of them?
 

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First let me say that I will not continue this if people start jumping in being overly rude with their "opinions". But i have no problem having an actual converstion or answering your questions. The difference is the legality of the issue. Which I hope will one day soon be rectified. If it were not for that I would have no problem with them knowing, however I would not smoke it around them. Same as I don't smoke cigarettes around them, in my home, or in the car with them. Honestly I wish I did not have to keep a secret like that from my children, because I think there is nothing wrong with it. (in moderation of course)
 

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From another thread:

Originally posted by LivingDeadDoll

You [Knight] said "anything" so here it is - Why do you think that everyone seems to want me gone just because I said something that they do not agree with?

Everyone does not want you gone.

( i am referring to the marijuana thread ) I feel that others have disagreed on various subjects before and they aren't being taunted incessantly

Incessant taunting is quite common around here. I was actually trying to have a reasonable discourse with you and only occassionally made a joke.

so why am I being treated in such an ill manner?

'ill'? You got more responses to your posts than most people do, Lighthouse is even considering becoming a pothead just so people will talk to him! :doh:
 

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Originally posted by LivingDeadDoll

First let me say that I will not continue this if people start jumping in being overly rude with their "opinions".

Sorry, this is a public forum specifically given to debate. The only way to avoid other peoples opinions is to avoid posting yours.

But i have no problem having an actual converstion or answering your questions.

Fair enough.

The difference is the legality of the issue. Which I hope will one day soon be rectified.

I'm not sure that legality is all there is to it. When I asked if you would some day smoke pot with your kids, you gave a resounding "NO". Now, I have drank beer with my Father and Grandfather on more times than I care to guess at, it's just a normal part of life. I have been to countless family functions where alcohol was served and I can't guess at how many times my Mother and I shared a couple glasses of wine while we talked.

Your negative response to my original question about smoking pot with your kids some day alludes to something more than legality, what is it?

If it were not for that I would have no problem with them knowing, however I would not smoke it around them. Same as I don't smoke cigarettes around them, in my home, or in the car with them.

I understand, Mrs. BillyBob won't allow me the occassional cigar unless I smoke it outside. I agree, I don't want my house smelling like smoke any more than she does.

Honestly I wish I did not have to keep a secret like that from my children, because I think there is nothing wrong with it. (in moderation of course)

Will you care if they start smoking pot when they become teenagers?

While they are under 18?

While they are still living in your house?

Will you mind if they get high before school?

If so, how will you convince them that it's wrong?
 
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Originally posted by BillyBob

'ill'? You got more responses to your posts than most people do, Lighthouse is even considering becoming a pothead just so people will talk to him! :doh:
WOW!! :darwinsm:
 

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Originally posted by BillyBob

'ill'? You got more responses to your posts than most people do, Lighthouse is even considering becoming a pothead just so people will talk to him! :doh:
:chuckle:
 

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Originally posted by the Sibbie

WOW!! :darwinsm:

I'm not going to admit that I busted out laughing on that one too since it was such a mean thing to say. :nono:








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LivingDeadDoll

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Originally posted by BillyBob

Sorry, this is a public forum specifically given to debate. The only way to avoid other peoples opinions is to avoid posting yours.



Fair enough.



I'm not sure that legality is all there is to it. When I asked if you would some day smoke pot with your kids, you gave a resounding "NO". Now, I have drank beer with my Father and Grandfather on more times than I care to guess at, it's just a normal part of life. I have been to countless family functions where alcohol was served and I can't guess at how many times my Mother and I shared a couple glasses of wine while we talked.

Your negative response to my original question about smoking pot with your kids some day alludes to something more than legality, what is it?



I understand, Mrs. BillyBob won't allow me the occassional cigar unless I smoke it outside. I agree, I don't want my house smelling like smoke any more than she does.



Will you care if they start smoking pot when they become teenagers?

While they are under 18?

While they are still living in your house?

Will you mind if they get high before school?

If so, how will you convince them that it's wrong?
Glad to know "everyone" doesn't want me gone, I think I just felt so attacked because that was the only thing I was able to discuss, it was following me everywhere.

Well, it may be that you have shared drinks with your parents, and I am not going to say I haven't done the same, but I will say that it does have a rather odd feeling to me. I don't know why, but it does. Feeling the slightest bit tipsy around my parents makes me rather uncomfortable, and since I would imagine to get the same feeling were it to be marijuana and not alcohol, I would, in turn, assume that it would be the same with my children. I dunno, I just feel strange, I never said it would be wrong though. So, actually yes, legality is the only real issue there. The "NO" was so resounding because I found it such an odd thought to entertain.

Will I care if they smoke pot when they are teenagers? Well, that depends, I wouldn't want them drinking even at legal age if I thought they did not do it responsibly, in moderation, and did not set aside there responsibilities in order to do drink. Same for marijuana, if I thought they were responsible enough to handle it, and I thought they were still taking care of their schooling or what have you, then I suppose I would not have an issue with it.

While they are under 18....well, I suppose that depends also. Mostly for the same reasons as above. Depends on the child, their maturity level, things of that nature.( You might disagree, but these days I find it unfavorable to live by society and the governments ideals of what a person should do or when they should do it )I have a few years to ponder the subject though.

While living in my house... Well if all the above stated things are found agreeable then yes. If I have no problem with it why would I say they coudn't do it while living with me (keep in mind that if you know of a reason , tell me. Just because I feel I have thought something through does not mean I have thought of everything)

Before school...I'm not sure about that one. Personally I would think not. Now my husband would tell you that he is able to function better that way, as he is VERY VERY hyper and it slows his mind down enough to think. I still say probably not though, but I suppose if they were doing it and their grades were exceptional then why not? I would have to think that one through some more though. As I mentioned before, my husband is very intelligent, as are my children, so who knows what will be happening with them in 10-17 years from now. ( oh my! 10 - 17 years, wow, I have a ways to go don't I?)

I think that covers just about everything you asked...
 

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Originally posted by LivingDeadDoll

Glad to know "everyone" doesn't want me gone, I think I just felt so attacked because that was the only thing I was able to discuss, it was following me everywhere.

That hasn't changed, either! :chuckle:

Well, it may be that you have shared drinks with your parents, and I am not going to say I haven't done the same, but I will say that it does have a rather odd feeling to me. I don't know why, but it does.

I am almost 20 years older than you, that might have something to do with it. I especially miss the games of poker with my Grandfather and Father as we drank beer, smoked cigars and tried to win each others money. I guess it's a guy thing....


Feeling the slightest bit tipsy around my parents makes me rather uncomfortable, and since I would imagine to get the same feeling were it to be marijuana and not alcohol, I would, in turn, assume that it would be the same with my children. I dunno, I just feel strange, I never said it would be wrong though. So, actually yes, legality is the only real issue there. The "NO" was so resounding because I found it such an odd thought to entertain.

I started smoking pot when I was 13. The first few times I was scared that my folks would know I was high, after that, I couldn't care less. I was sure I could act straight and they'd never know.


Will I care if they smoke pot when they are teenagers? Well, that depends, I wouldn't want them drinking even at legal age if I thought they did not do it responsibly, in moderation, and did not set aside there responsibilities in order to do drink. Same for marijuana, if I thought they were responsible enough to handle it, and I thought they were still taking care of their schooling or what have you, then I suppose I would not have an issue with it.

Drinking or getting high at such a young age can only be detrimental, nothing good can come from it.


While they are under 18....well, I suppose that depends also. Mostly for the same reasons as above. Depends on the child, their maturity level, things of that nature.( You might disagree, but these days I find it unfavorable to live by society and the governments ideals of what a person should do or when they should do it )I have a few years to ponder the subject though.

Do you think that advocating the use of an illegal substance might have long lasting effects on your children?


While living in my house... Well if all the above stated things are found agreeable then yes. If I have no problem with it why would I say they coudn't do it while living with me (keep in mind that if you know of a reason , tell me. Just because I feel I have thought something through does not mean I have thought of everything)

One reason might be because pot's illegal and they would be bringing an illegal substance into your house.

Another might be that by the time they are old enough to experiment with drugs, you would have stopped using them because you realize that it is wrong. How do you convince your children not to use them if they know you were a previous drug user?

Before school...I'm not sure about that one. Personally I would think not.

Do you think they should drink a few beers before school?

Now my husband would tell you that he is able to function better that way, as he is VERY VERY hyper and it slows his mind down enough to think.

Yes, most potheads say the same thing. Did you know that a common symptom of addiction is denial? Another is justification.

I still say probably not though, but I suppose if they were doing it and their grades were exceptional then why not?

I see. So if your kids went to school drunk but still maintained decent grades, you would find that acceptable?

I would have to think that one through some more though.

Good idea.

As I mentioned before, my husband is very intelligent,

Most doting wives say the same thing.

as are my children,

Most doting Mothers say the same thing.

so who knows what will be happening with them in 10-17 years from now. ( oh my! 10 - 17 years, wow, I have a ways to go don't I?)

It's never too early to start thinking about this stuff.

I think that covers just about everything you asked...

There's always more.........
 

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...about my hubby's intelligence, I'd say an IQ of 168 is a pretty good thing to "dote" over ... and my 5 year old can do math and read just as well as some of the third graders down the street...but maybe i'm being a doting mother/wife...

And yes...I'm sure there will be more....:cool:
 

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Originally posted by LivingDeadDoll

...about my hubby's intelligence, I'd say an IQ of 168 is a pretty good thing to "dote" over

I thought you said it was over 200????

... and my 5 year old can do math and read just as well as some of the third graders down the street

So can Lighthouse!!

...but maybe i'm being a doting mother/wife...

Most likely.


And yes...I'm sure there will be more....:cool:

I'm still waiting for you to respond to ther rest of my post. :cool:
 

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I never said OVER, i said ALMOST...but then I realized that being vague in such a thing is not wise, so i corrected myself and said 168.

The rest? what did i miss, gimmie a minute...
 

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Originally posted by BillyBob

Drinking or getting high at such a young age can only be detrimental, nothing good can come from it.

Do you think that advocating the use of an illegal substance might have long lasting effects on your children?

One reason might be because pot's illegal and they would be bringing an illegal substance into your house.

Another might be that by the time they are old enough to experiment with drugs, you would have stopped using them because you realize that it is wrong. How do you convince your children not to use them if they know you were a previous drug user?

Do you think they should drink a few beers before school?

Yes, most potheads say the same thing. Did you know that a common symptom of addiction is denial? Another is justification.

I see. So if your kids went to school drunk but still maintained decent grades, you would find that acceptable?

Good idea.

It's never too early to start thinking about this stuff.

There's always more.........

you are probably right

no

true, but like I said maybe it will be legal by then

I do not classify marijuana as a "drug" by society's definition

no, point taken

that doesn't mean that everyone that denies something is addicted


thank you

that's why I like discussing it


Is that everything?
 

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Originally posted by LivingDeadDoll

true, but like I said maybe it will be legal by then

[This was in response to my question about your kids bringing pot into your house when they are teenagers.]

So, as long as it's legal they can bring it into your house? What about pornography? Cigarettes?

Also, if pot becomes legal, it certainly won't be legal for teenagers, so if they bring pot into your house, it will be done illegally.


I do not classify marijuana as a "drug" by society's definition

Exactly how do you classify it, then? I thought you said it helped your husband's medical condition. If so, it certainly falls into the category of a drug, wouldn't you say? What characteristics does a substance need to have in order for you to consider it a drug?

that doesn't mean that everyone that denies something is addicted

That is the single most common response by addicts when it is pointed out that denial is part of addiction.


Is that everything?

There's always more.......
 

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Originally posted by BillyBob

Where is the 'Marijuana' thread, anyway?


Originally posted by LivingDeadDoll

How would I know, i'm not posting there any longer, what's the point? What you weren't tired of it yet?

It seems that you might rather have this discussion in the 'Marijuana' thread than the 'LivingDeadDoll's lies' thread.

Just a thought.........
 
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