Land, Food, Water, Energy

Hoping

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Wind and hydropower will never replace gas a diesel for keeping Americans from starving to death because of breakdowns in distribution.
I think we can use every source of energy that God has provided us.
 

marke

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Especially the wind and tidal currents.
Would it be God's will to set back 100 years of fossil fuel-driven industrialization in order to force poor people to pay much higher costs for less efficient, less available, and less sustainable alternative fuels?
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond

New York journeying into darkness as statewide energy issues loom​


The state Department of Environmental Conservation needs to make the right call on a crucial liquefied-natural-gas project, or New Yorkers will be out in the cold.
Literally.
The DEC has until Friday to issue permits for two new LNG vaporizers at a National Grid facility in Brooklyn, to back up the plant’s main generating capacity during winter demand surges (and make its overall operation cleaner and more efficient).
If the DEC bows to green agitators, the plant will be unable to meet demand for the coldest days of upcoming winters. That means real suffering, and even deaths. (The catastrophic blackouts caused by a freak Texas blizzard in February 2021 killed as many as 750.)

In other words, it’ll mark yet one more step on New York’s journey into darkness.
That journey began with 2019’s Climate Leadership and Community Protection Act, a piece of green insanity that will — if its roadmap is followed — lock in permanent energy pain across the Empire State while costing taxpayers more than $300 billion.
The DEC faces challenges with expected energy demands in the coming winter months as well as appeasing green agitators.Christopher Sadowski
In fact, a new report from the Empire Center pegs the energy deficits the CLCPA will cause at 10% by 2040, when the act says New York must go emissions-free.
That’s what happens when legislators plan to sacrifice our state’s actual generating capacity for pie-eyed dreams about renewable energy, i.e. wind and solar (now accounting for less than 6% of our power).

 

marke

Well-known member

New York journeying into darkness as statewide energy issues loom​


The state Department of Environmental Conservation needs to make the right call on a crucial liquefied-natural-gas project, or New Yorkers will be out in the cold.
Literally.
The DEC has until Friday to issue permits for two new LNG vaporizers at a National Grid facility in Brooklyn, to back up the plant’s main generating capacity during winter demand surges (and make its overall operation cleaner and more efficient).
If the DEC bows to green agitators, the plant will be unable to meet demand for the coldest days of upcoming winters. That means real suffering, and even deaths. (The catastrophic blackouts caused by a freak Texas blizzard in February 2021 killed as many as 750.)

In other words, it’ll mark yet one more step on New York’s journey into darkness.
That journey began with 2019’s Climate Leadership and Community Protection Act, a piece of green insanity that will — if its roadmap is followed — lock in permanent energy pain across the Empire State while costing taxpayers more than $300 billion.
The DEC faces challenges with expected energy demands in the coming winter months as well as appeasing green agitators.Christopher Sadowski
In fact, a new report from the Empire Center pegs the energy deficits the CLCPA will cause at 10% by 2040, when the act says New York must go emissions-free.
That’s what happens when legislators plan to sacrifice our state’s actual generating capacity for pie-eyed dreams about renewable energy, i.e. wind and solar (now accounting for less than 6% of our power).

Hardcore environmentalist cultists never worry about the human cost of pushing damaging green energy agendas.
 

Hoping

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Banned
Would it be God's will to set back 100 years of fossil fuel-driven industrialization in order to force poor people to pay much higher costs for less efficient, less available, and less sustainable alternative fuels?
Think we are due for a wind shortage?
Or that the moon will move, and disrupt the tides?
 

marke

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Think we are due for a wind shortage?
Or that the moon will move, and disrupt the tides?
Disrupted tides? No, I suspect disrupted economic stability if idiots keep trying to force all Americans to run cars and trucks on tides.
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
Think we are due for a wind shortage?
Or that the moon will move, and disrupt the tides?

Typically the wind tends to die down at night. Coincidentally the same time the sun tends to shine less brightly.

As for tides, it's generally seen as impractical.
 

Hoping

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Banned
Disrupted tides? No, I suspect disrupted economic stability if idiots keep trying to force all Americans to run cars and trucks on tides.
I'm guessing that you are without hope of a future with anything better than what we have now.
Personally, I hope we can develop cheap, non-polluting energy sources, that are available to the whole world.
With what we consider cutting edge now, we need vast advances in battery technology.
I am hoping that one day every "pipeline", (water, natural gas, sewer, storm runoff, oil, etc.) in the world will have turbines generating electricity connected all along their courses.
 

Hoping

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Banned
Typically the wind tends to die down at night. Coincidentally the same time the sun tends to shine less brightly.
Yep.
The "power" storage capabilities we have now are insufficient for the needs.
God willing, eventually our battery technology will have a quantum leap in capacity.
As for tides, it's generally seen as impractical.
Paved hi-ways across continents were once seen as "impractical".
So were street light.
Need and availability will trump practicality.

As the continuity of the sun and wind now impede us, the tides never falter.
 

marke

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I'm guessing that you are without hope of a future with anything better than what we have now.
Personally, I hope we can develop cheap, non-polluting energy sources, that are available to the whole world.
With what we consider cutting edge now, we need vast advances in battery technology.
I am hoping that one day every "pipeline", (water, natural gas, sewer, storm runoff, oil, etc.) in the world will have turbines generating electricity connected all along their courses.
Liberals have such stupid dreams. Like disarming good people so wicked people will give up their guns also. Or spending the country into inflationary hell so prosperity will return like a flood in the sweet by and by. Or doing away with fossil fuels so the world will be forced to buy more expensive and less efficient alternative fuels under the delusion that costs will eventually come back down.
If we do away with fossil fuels how are we going to make and maintain the gadgets that we think are going to give us cheaper and more efficient alternative fuels?

Can we fight global warming by increasing global warming to attend the endless streams of conferences associated with the fictional science?

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marke

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Yep.
The "power" storage capabilities we have now are insufficient for the needs.
God willing, eventually our battery technology will have a quantum leap in capacity.

Pie-in-the-sky leftist hope of a future void of oil and gas and overflowing with the milk and honey of prosperity ushered in as a result of cheaper and cleaner alternative fuels. Perhaps milk is not the right word since Obama commissioned the EPA to do a 'cost-is-no-object' exhaustive study of cow farts to determine if cows also must be eliminated from civilization to bring about a new cooler and more prosperous world without industrialization.

Fire Safety of Lithium-ion batteries in electric vehicles

Consumers’ biggest concerns with all-electric cars are about the limited range of the battery and how long it will take to recharge. In response, car manufacturers are working actively on developing more powerful batteries. But the possibility of a thermal runaway event occuring in the lithium-ion battery system is much more worrying. The risk increases as the batteries get more powerful. A thermal runaway causes smoke, fire, and even explosions, and threatens the car and its occupants.

Each cell in a lithium-ion battery contains flammable electrolyte. This is the liquid membrane through which chemical ions pass between electrodes. Thus if a single cell short-circuits this electrolyte can catch fire and burst through battery cell walls.

Since 2015, when the electric-vehicle market became more mainstream, many battery-related accidents have been recorded.

One of the biggest challenges in desiging an EV architecture is determing how batteries will react in a crash. Second question is how to prevent the resulting fire from intruding into the battery pack. The temperature of a EV battery fire can go up to 1000°C (1832 °F) In case of a crash and fire, occupants in the vehicle need time to escape.

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Hoping

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Banned
Liberals have such stupid dreams. Like disarming good people so wicked people will give up their guns also. Or spending the country into inflationary hell so prosperity will return like a flood in the sweet by and by. Or doing away with fossil fuels so the world will be forced to buy more expensive and less efficient alternative fuels under the delusion that costs will eventually come back down.
If we do away with fossil fuels how are we going to make and maintain the gadgets that we think are going to give us cheaper and more efficient alternative fuels?

Can we fight global warming by increasing global warming to attend the endless streams of conferences associated with the fictional science?
So you are without hope of a better future?
 

Hoping

Well-known member
Banned
Pie-in-the-sky leftist hope of a future void of oil and gas and overflowing with the milk and honey of prosperity ushered in as a result of cheaper and cleaner alternative fuels. Perhaps milk is not the right word since Obama commissioned the EPA to do a 'cost-is-no-object' exhaustive study of cow farts to determine if cows also must be eliminated from civilization to bring about a new cooler and more prosperous world without industrialization.

Fire Safety of Lithium-ion batteries in electric vehicles

Consumers’ biggest concerns with all-electric cars are about the limited range of the battery and how long it will take to recharge. In response, car manufacturers are working actively on developing more powerful batteries. But the possibility of a thermal runaway event occuring in the lithium-ion battery system is much more worrying. The risk increases as the batteries get more powerful. A thermal runaway causes smoke, fire, and even explosions, and threatens the car and its occupants.

Each cell in a lithium-ion battery contains flammable electrolyte. This is the liquid membrane through which chemical ions pass between electrodes. Thus if a single cell short-circuits this electrolyte can catch fire and burst through battery cell walls.

Since 2015, when the electric-vehicle market became more mainstream, many battery-related accidents have been recorded.

One of the biggest challenges in desiging an EV architecture is determing how batteries will react in a crash. Second question is how to prevent the resulting fire from intruding into the battery pack. The temperature of a EV battery fire can go up to 1000°C (1832 °F) In case of a crash and fire, occupants in the vehicle need time to escape.
That is why I said the battery technology needs improvement.
 

Hoping

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Banned
Here is the fact of the future that I stand on:

Genesis 8:22
While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.
Great.
So growth in other power sources besides gas and oil will not end the earth.
 
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