CherubRam
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Why not use his real name "Yahshua?"
Jesus said, "Few There be that Find it" Matthew 7:14
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Why not use his real name "Yahshua?"
jsanford108
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I have to agree with Pate here for a simple reason. Once one begins to interchange terms/names, it goes down an unstable path. Not saying it is always dangerous, but often, such cases lead to a divergence from Scripture. For instance, the JW's do this. Mormons do this.
Why not stick to what is plainly written, versus going and finding various alternate, though accurate (at least, initially), names and labels? If you wish to utilize Greek, Hebrew, or Latin nomenclature in discussions, in order to educate or illustrate a point, that is great; but why not quote what is written, then provide clarification?
I just find such replacing and interchanging trivial and petty. And as stated before, it leads to a more lenient tendency for other interchanging scenarios.
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Why not stick to what is plainly written, versus going and finding various alternate, though accurate (at least, initially), names and labels? If you wish to utilize Greek, Hebrew, or Latin nomenclature in discussions, in order to educate or illustrate a point, that is great; but why not quote what is written, then provide clarification?
I just find such replacing and interchanging trivial and petty. And as stated before, it leads to a more lenient tendency for other interchanging scenarios.
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CherubRam
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The name Jesus is not in the original bible text.
jsanford108
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Neither is the word "love" or "mercy," since they are English words. You missed the point.
If you speak English, utilize the English translations. It doesn't make one look any more intellectual when they start replacing names in a simple quote. For example,
"Jesus wept." Vs "Y'shua wept."
I can utilize Greek, Latin, Hebrew, or Aramic to make my point, but my initial quote does not profit from interchanging terms/names.
CherubRam
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Love and mercy are in the original text of the bible, the translation Jesus is not. Christ name in English is Yahshua. The name "Jesus" is alien to scriptures and English.
Since the NT was not written in Hebrew neither is Yahshua.
His biblical name is Iesous not Yahshua.
In English versions Iesous is translated Jesus.
So is Yahshua and its many variations.
God's Truth
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You can't find it unless you obey the Way.
John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way...
Jesus is the way, the truth and the life, no one can come to the father but by him, John 14:6.
I guess that leaves you out, because you think that it is by your obedience.
jsanford108
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"Jesus" is the English translation.
[The proper name Jesus /ˈdʒiːzəs/ used in the English language, originates from the Latin form of the Greek name Ἰησοῦς (Iēsous), a rendition of the Hebrew Yeshua (ישוע), also having the variants Joshua or Jeshua.] -Source: Encyclopedia Briticana, 2008
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You go to a secular encyclopedia for spiritual insight?
jsanford108
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Vocabulary is not something taught in Scripture, is it? I didn't think so.
Are you really that stupid?
fishrovmen
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And all you have is fast food..how sad
CherubRam
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Because Hebrews dropped their 'ayins', to keep from saying God's name, hence we have "y'shua." Also spelled Yeshua, for which we have in Greek, "Iēsous" and "Isus." These are corruptions of the names that begin with "Yah."
By not pronouncing his name correctly this piece of scripture would go unnoticed.
Exodus 23:21
Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him.
Yah / wah and Yah / Shua
John 17:11
I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one.
Yah / Shua
Isaiah 52:6
Therefore my people will know my name; therefore in that day they will know that it is I who foretold it. Yes, it is I.”
Yahwah foretold it.
Proverbs 30:4
Who has gone up to heaven and come down? Whose hands have gathered up the wind? Who has wrapped up the waters in a cloak? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is his name, and what is the name of his son? Surely you know!
Yahshua is Yahwah's son.
John 10
36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?
Yahshua said he is a god.
I do not hold to the tradition of Jews and Christians deforming or mispronouncing God's name. It has been a long standing tradition for Jews and Christians to mislead people in knowing God's name.
But because the Galileans always dropped their 'ayins', hence "y'shu. Meaning "may his name be blotted out" (from the scroll of life). According to a Jewish proverb, the worst death is eternal anonymity, for which in the Talmud many Jewish people use as an acronym meaning “may his name be blotted out”.
The name "Jesus" is an insult to Christ, that is why I do not like to use it.
God's Truth
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You come to the Father by Jesus---by doing what Jesus says.
Jesus says that you are a sinner in need of a savior.
The word "name" refers to his authority no matter what you call him.
To call on the name of the Lord is to call on his authority.
There is no other authority for salvation.
Few there be, jamie
Yes, not many are needed for the kingdom.
Many are called to come, but most are weeded out.