If you aren't Catholic, you are not fully Christian

[Idolater]

Rather, you have to affirm and follow all that Christ's one historic Church teaches, just as Christians have been doing for two millennia now.

This consists largely in agreeing with the Niceno-Constantinopolitan and Apostles' creeds, going to Mass once a week, and maintaining full communion with the Church (which means avoid grave matter).

It's really easy. It's not nothing, but it is an easy yoke and a light burden, just as the Lord said it would be.

 

[Right Divider]

This consists largely in agreeing with the Niceno-Constantinopolitan and Apostles' creeds, going to Mass once a week, and maintaining full communion with the Church (which means avoid grave matter).

"The Mass" is evil and anti-Christian.

It's really easy. It's not nothing, but it is an easy yoke and a light burden, just as the Lord said it would be.

Jesus wasn't talking to you.

Mat 15:24 KJV But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

 

[Idolater]

"The Mass" is evil and anti-Christian.

Mass is our chore. It's an easy yoke and a light burden. We've gone to Mass since the very beginning Acts 2:42. It's one of the distinguishing things about us, is weekly Mass, sort of like the weekly Sabbath for practicing Jews, except Mass isn't all day long, more like an hour.

Jesus wasn't talking to you.

There is nothing appealing about any Dispensationalism, it offers us nothing.

 

[Agent]

I heard that Catholics believe that they are the only true church whose traditions were handed down from Apostolic succession.

 

[Sherman]

Many - but not all - Catholics have the attitude that they are the only Christians.

 

[Right Divider]

Mass is our chore.

It's an easy yoke and a light burden.

Still trying to "be Israel".

We've gone to Mass since the very beginning Acts 2:42.

Still trying to "be Israel".

It's one of the distinguishing things about us, is weekly Mass, sort of like the weekly Sabbath for practicing Jews, except Mass isn't all day long, more like an hour.

Still trying to "be Israel" (only "simpler").

There is nothing appealing about any Dispensationalism, it offers us nothing.

There is nothing appealing about the truth. You dislike the truth.

 

[Right Divider]

We've gone to Mass since the very beginning Acts 2:42.

So you've sold all of your possessions and hold all things in common?
You continue daily with one accord in the temple?

 

[Idolater]

Still trying to "be Israel".

Still trying to "be Israel".

Still trying to "be Israel" (only "simpler").

There is nothing appealing about the truth. You dislike the truth.

Why is Christ our Passover?

 

[Right Divider]

Why is Christ our Passover?

Not because "we're Israel".

You should realize that the audience in Corinth included Jews as well as gentiles. So sometimes Paul uses Jewish terms. That does not make the body of Christ Israel.

 

[Idolater]

Not because "we're Israel".

You should realize that the audience in Corinth included Jews as well as gentiles. So sometimes Paul uses Jewish terms. That does not make the body of Christ Israel.

Is Christ our Passover or not?

 

[Right Divider]

Is Christ our Passover or not?

Yes, but that does NOT make us "Israel".

Christ's sacrifice was for ALL.

 

[Idolater]

Yes, but that does NOT make us "Israel".

Christ's sacrifice was for ALL.

Why is He our "Passover" then?

 

[Right Divider]

Why is He our "Passover" then?

Really?

1Co 5:7-8 KJV Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us: (8) Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

Here is Paul's MAIN POINT in that passage:

1Co 5:9-13 KJV I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: (10) Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. (11) But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. (12) For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? (13) But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

 

[annabenedetti]

I heard that Catholics believe that they are the only true church whose traditions were handed down from Apostolic succession.

Some Catholics do believe that, others don't. Catholicism is a big tent, some traditional Catholics believe if you're not a baptized Catholic you're going to hell. They base that on older papal teachings which say pretty much exactly that. Other Catholics probably can't tell you who the current pope is.

 

[Idolater]

Really?

Yes. And why does the passage say that He is sacrificed for us---why not that He was sacrificed for us?

Here is Paul's MAIN POINT in that passage:

How is He our Passover, if we have to avoid being grave sinners ("fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner" 1st Corinthians 5:11 you quoted) in order to be passed over?

"...if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner . . . put away from among yourselves that wicked person." No passover. The angel of death drags you out of Church, if you're a grave sinner, no matter what Gospel you say you believe.

 

[Right Divider]

Yes. And why does the passage say that He is sacrificed for us---why not that He was sacrificed for us?

Is there a point?

How is He our Passover, if we have to avoid being grave sinners ("fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner" 1st Corinthians 5:11 you quoted) in order to be passed over?

Paul did not say "in order to be passed over". You made that up.

"...if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner . . . put away from among yourselves that wicked person." No passover. The angel of death drags you out of Church, if you're a grave sinner, no matter what Gospel you say you believe.

No idea what you're talking about.

 

[Leatherneck]

where's the lie in that? you dont say.

Protestants ARE separated brethren. They are Christians but again, not fully so

That is sad b/c for all the bad things in the Church, bad priests, etc, i can still say, and say enthusiastically, that nonCatholics are really missing out, don't know what they are missing (Sacraments, etc)

Missing worshipping Mary( called veneration by Catholics), bowing before idols( statues ) , believing the lie of an infallible pope, bribing God to get out of a fake place called purgatory, calling anyone but God Father no thanks.

 

[Idolater]

Is there a point?

Is the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world or not?

Paul did not say "in order to be passed over". You made that up.

No, Paul just calls Him our Passover, so we have to look up what the Passover means, and it goes back to Exodus, where the angel of death passed over God's people.

No idea what you're talking about.

Paul says that unrepentant grave sinners should be removed from the Church.

 

[Right Divider]

Is the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world or not?

Yes, but the "Lamb" alludes to the nation of Israel. Gentiles had no law nor sacrificial system given to them by God.

No, Paul just calls Him our Passover, so we have to look up what the Passover means, and it goes back to Exodus, where the angel of death passed over God's people.

Yes, but if you try too hard to "be Israel" you will miss the blessings of the body of Christ (which is not associated with Israel).

Paul says that unrepentant grave sinners should be removed from the Church.

Again you continue to use "the Church" as if there is one and only one such entity.

 

[Idolater]

Missing worshipping Mary( called veneration by Catholics), bowing before idols( statues ) , believing the lie of an infallible pope, bribing God to get out of a fake place called purgatory, calling anyone but God Father no thanks.

Basically none of those things are Catholic, so you're not missing any of those things by not being Catholic.

What you are missing, is the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist.

"...where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them", "...the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: And when he had given thanks ("Eucharist"), he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body", "...he was known of them in breaking of bread...", "They devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching and to the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer", and, "...the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread...."