I will not vote for trump

LightSon

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until Jesus Christ Himself is on the ballot, how do we avoid recognizing that the candidates are human, with all the weaknesses, foibles and failures inherent?

Let me see if I understand. We have the Lord Jesus in 1 category all by himself, and then everybody else in the other category. No need to even attempt to slice it more fine. Mother Theresa and Hitler both dumped into the same bucket because we’re all sinners. Is this your point?
 

chrysostom

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But what's been interesting is watching conservatives who were screaming about not voting for a RINO in the last two elections fall in lockstep behind a populist/demagogue/nativist/embodiment of the Ugly American - and celebrating him as their new political messiah - and I think it's because he massages their latent bigotry and sense of victimhood.

that was good
-the ugly american
-they really are ugly
 

ClimateSanity

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My primary isn't until June 7. I'm interested to see how it turns out, because the GOP could have opened the primary to unaffiliated (No Party Preference) voters but didn't. The Democratic party did. NPP voter registration in California is almost the same as Republican, and both are way outnumbered by Democrats:

Democratic 43.1%
Republican 27.6%
No Party Preference 24.0%

So it'll be interesting to see how it all plays out on June 7 here in California, but even if I ever in my wildest dreams wanted to vote for Trump in the primary, I couldn't, I'm registered as no party preference. I wonder how the other 4 million-plus NPP voters will vote.

As to your boat scenario: I understand your dilemma, and you're certainly not alone among many moderate Republicans, I'm sure. But what's been interesting is watching conservatives who were screaming about not voting for a RINO in the last two elections fall in lockstep behind a populist/demagogue/nativist/embodiment of the Ugly American - and celebrating him as their new political messiah - and I think it's because he massages their latent bigotry and sense of victimhood.

I posted this some pages back:
Trump Selects a White Nationalist Leader as a Delegate in California

On Monday evening, California's secretary of state published a list of delegates chosen by the Trump campaign for the upcoming Republican presidential primary in the state. Trump's slate includes William Johnson, one of the country's most prominent white nationalists.

...We ended up in a mirrored conference room to meet with three AFP sympathizers, two middle-aged women and a young man. They talked about how Trump had enabled a new kind of "honest discourse," how he wasn't a racist but a "racialist," and how he had left them feeling "emancipated." Johnson also now finds it easier to be himself: "For many, many years, when I would say these things, other white people would call me names: 'Oh, you're a hatemonger, you're a Nazi, you're like Hitler,'" he confessed. "Now they come in and say, 'Oh, you're like Donald Trump.'"



I don't want the President of the United States to have a delegate who's a white nationalist, or a white nationalist who feels so in sync with the President of the United States, so I won't be swimming to that boat.

It's amazing the contempt you have for at least 30% of the population.
 

Crucible

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You all's Stockholm syndrome is astounding. We have a president, and running candidate, who both support racist organizations and which nobody bats an eye, and you sit here in arms about an alleged 'white nationalist'.
 

ClimateSanity

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No mind reading needed. It's the conclusion any unbiased reader would come to. Words are Windows to the soul.

Matthew 15:18

But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this defiles a person.
 

Town Heretic

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Trump has become President, destroyer of the establishment
There's no point in destroying a thing unless you can build something better. But first he has to actually win the election...well, first he has to cement his hold on the nomination, do his best to see that the party doesn't splinter and a right wing version of Nader doesn't undo his position. Then he has to beat the Dems.

Republicans couldn't unseat the sitting President when that was essentially their only priority. So who knows?
 
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