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Yes without any court hearing. Without any examination of evidence. If they are determined by ICE to be in the country illegally the due process is to be removed.
Nope, interesting how you ignore the Constitution when you wish. Bet you use it to support the right to have a gun.
 

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support the right to have a gun.

Says the Brit who lives under the tyranny of a disarmament regime, who once tried disarming one of its colonies, which resulted in that colony fighting y'all for independence, and subsequently winning that fight.

My right to have a weapon to defend myself with comes from God, not the government.

You don't get to lecture any American on guns when you yourself have been disarmed.
 

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Hunh, I live in New England. Not England. And your right to carry a weapon, if it exists at all, comes from the Constitution.

Jesus Himself affirmed the right to bear arms.

Then He said to them, “But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one.

Jesus was here long before the Constitution.

Also...

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Avajs

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I dont care what Jesus said.
It is really interesting that in many countries your post #10 calling for the replacement of our governmental system would have you thrown in the hoosgow. the reason you can even say that is your Constitutional right to free speech. Although Donald from Queens might not want you to have that right you still do.
Your desire for a Constitutional monarchy reminds me of a scene in the Holy Grail. The whole idea is based on widhful thinking and an absurd desire for human nature to be different than it is
But feel free to explain to me just how this Constitutional monarchy might work
 

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I don't care what Jesus said.

And so we get to the heart of the matter.

You reject the One who created you.

That makes you His enemy (though He still loves you and wants you to stop rejecting Him).

It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

You should repent. Turn back to God. Ask for His forgiveness. He is good and His mercy endures forever. He is gracious and just to forgive.

He is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Because right now, you're on your way to Hell with jet rockets. I don't want that. God doesn't want that. But He won't force you to accept Him. He will let you go to Hell, to be apart from Him for all eternity.
 

Avajs

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And so we get to the heart of the matter.

You reject the One who created you.

That makes you His enemy (though He still loves you and wants you to stop rejecting Him).

It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

You should repent. Turn back to God. Ask for His forgiveness. He is good and His mercy endures forever. He is gracious and just to forgive.

He is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Because right now, you're on your way to Hell with jet rockets. I don't want that. God doesn't want that. But He won't force you to accept Him. He will let you go to Hell, to be apart from Him for all eternity.
I notice no explanation of how your Constitutional monarchy works, nor any acknowledgement of the fact that it is the US Constitution that enables you to criticize the government and seek its replacement.
I was created when my parents had sex.
I do not need to repent. and scary stores of hellfire are not likely to make me think othewise. I've read the book, I've listened to priests, preachers etc. I've gone to Bible studies
 

annabenedetti

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I came to this clip because it was embedded in an article. I don't watch MSNBC so any comments about 'the MSM' or Rachel Maddow will be ignored. It's a short synopsis of some of what's happening now in this country that supporters of Trump won't acknowledge, because it's clear that if the friend of Epstein strongman dictator is someone they see as a divinely ordained friend of Epstein strongman dictator, they are for any unconstitutional means to not only get him all the way (since he's already well on the way) to autocratic power, but to keep him there. I could post 100 different links to authoritative experts and it wouldn't make a difference to those who are too invested in their religious or ideological or xenophobic beliefs to challenge those beliefs.


Reporter: "Do you really think you are going to change the policies of this country by standing out here alone at night in front of the White House with a candle?"​
A.J. Muste: "Oh I don't do this to change the country. I do this so the country won't change me."​
 
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I came to this clip because it was embedded in an article. I don't watch MSNBC so any comments about 'the MSM' or Rachel Maddow will be ignored. It's a short synopsis of some of what's happening now in this country that supporters of Trump won't acknowledge, because it's clear that if the friend of Epstein strongman dictator is someone they see as a divinely ordained friend of Epstein strongman dictator, they are for any unconstitutional means to not only get him all the way (since he's already well on the way) to autocratic power, and to keep him there. I could post 100 different links to authoritative experts and it wouldn't make a difference to those who are too invested in their religious or ideological or xenophobic beliefs to challenge them.


Reporter: "Do you really think you are going to change the policies of this country by standing out here alone at night in front of the White House with a candle?"​
A.J. Muste: "Oh I don't do this to change the country. I do this so the country won't change me."​
MSNBC and Rachel Maddow blatantly lied to the whole country for 4 years. Blatantly lied to the whole world about the incompetence of the dementia patient in the Oval Office.
Who on Earth would be so retarded as to believe anything they have to say now?

... oh, right 😂
 

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At 7:22 this morning, President Donald J. Trump posted on social media: “I have instructed our Department of Commerce to immediately begin work on a new and highly accurate CENSUS based on modern day facts and figures and, importantly, using the results and information gained from the Presidential Election of 2024. People who are in our Country illegally WILL NOT BE COUNTED IN THE CENSUS. Thank you for your attention to this matter!”​
Trump has no power to change the timing of the U.S. Census, which is mandated by the Constitution to take place every ten years.
He also has no power to declare that undocumented immigrants won’t be counted: the Constitution specifies that representatives “shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State.” MAGA turns sometimes to the Fourteenth Amendment’s exclusion of “Indians not taxed” from the count for representation as proof that lawmakers recognized that some people should be excluded from the census. But, in fact, “not taxed” identified a group of people who did not come under the purview of the United States government.​
Just a year after the Civil War, lawmakers looked at the crisis caused by southern enslavers who had wielded outsized political power because the Constitution had allowed them to count enslaved Americans for purposes of representation and worried that a similar system would develop in the new states in the West. When they wrote the Fourteenth Amendment in 1866 (it was ratified in 1868), they explicitly excluded “Indians not taxed” out of concern that congressmen from the new western states would exercise more power than they should by counting the large numbers of Indigenous Americans who did not participate in the modern economy or have a say in the government. By excluding “Indians not taxed” explicitly, lawmakers demonstrated that they fully intended to include everyone else.​
The U.S. government has always included “all persons” when taking the census.​
Taking an accurate census suddenly is also not remotely possible. Setting one up takes most of the decade between them and costs close to $15 billion. Census officials are already working on the 2030 census.​
Trump’s announcement is revealing, though, in two ways.​
First, it shows how aware he and administration officials are that their program is deeply unpopular and that they expect to lose control of the House of Representatives in 2026 unless they rig the system. As Lisa Needham wrote today in Public Notice, “‘We stood aside so Trump could shutter vital agencies, take away your healthcare, and spend every last dime scooping up immigrants to help get Stephen Miller his 3,000 arrests a day’ is not exactly a rallying cry that will turn out voters.”​
Republicans in Texas are trying to redistrict the state; Republicans in Indiana, Florida, and Ohio are considering the same tactic. Today, Adam Wren and Andrew Howard of Politico reported that Vice President J.D. Vance brought an entourage of White House officials with him to Indiana to pressure lawmakers there to redistrict the state, indicating just how important administration officials think redistricting is to keep control of the House. Now Trump has simply blurted out that he plans to change the game altogether and rig it to win.​
But there is an even darker image behind destroying our democratic system. If undocumented immigrants aren’t counted, their districts will be shortchanged on representation and whatever federal monies are still available for states, for sure. But if undocumented immigrants aren’t counted, will they be easier to dehumanize? Already the government is taking people from the streets and denying their right to due process. Observers are describing human rights abuses in detention facilities where most of those incarcerated have no criminal record. If undocumented people are not officially recognized as existing, they could simply disappear.
Yesterday Adam Taylor, Hannah Natanson, and John Hudson of the Washington Post reported that, according to leaked drafts of the annual report on human rights from the State Department, the Trump administration plans to back away from criticizing El Salvador, Israel, and Russia for their extensive human rights abuses. In 2024, the State Department reported government-sanctioned killings, torture, and “harsh and life-threatening prison conditions” in El Salvador; the new report says there are “no credible reports of significant human rights abuses” in the country. Last year’s report for Israel was more than 100 pages; this year it is 25.​
The State Department has also declared support for the end to presidential term limits in El Salvador. This change enables Salvadoran president Nayib Bukele, who allowed Trump to render Venezuelan immigrants to his infamous CECOT prison, to hold office indefinitely, establishing himself as a dictator. A spokesperson for the State Department said: “El Salvador’s Legislative Assembly was democratically elected to advance the interests and policies of their constituents. Their decision to make constitutional changes is their own. It is up to them to decide how their country should be governed.”​
It is a truism that democracies die more often through the ballot box than at gunpoint.​
But Americans are not simply accepting the administration’s reworking of American society. People congregating in the Indiana Statehouse today to protest redistricting met the news that Vance was in the building with resounding boos.​
Last night, Trey Parker and Matt Stone skewered Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem and ICE on South Park, and comedian Stephen Colbert went scorched earth on Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., saying, among other things, that his cuts to vaccine research are “bad news for fans of living.”​
The White House continues to try to put a lid on questions about the relationship between convicted sex abuser Jeffrey Epstein and Trump but is having little luck. After vehemently denying they had plans for a meeting last night to discuss responses to the Epstein issue, White House officials met last night after all, MSNBC reported. Those officials included Attorney General Pam Bondi and Federal Bureau of Investigation director Kash Patel.
Just after 12:00 a.m. Eastern Time today, Trump’s tariffs of at least 10% on products from other countries went into effect. As Josh Boak of the Associated Press reported, while Trump and administration officials continue to insist that Trump’s economic policies will create “unprecedented” growth, “there are signs of self-inflicted wounds to the U.S. as companies and consumers brace for the impact of the new taxes.”
Economic growth is slowing, job growth is stagnant, and prices are headed upward. Chao Deng and John Keilman of the Wall Street Journal reported today that rather than increasing as Trump claimed it would under his tariff regime, manufacturing activity in the U.S. has shrunk for most of Trump’s second term.
The one thing that appears to be going according to Trump’s wishes is his remaking of the White House. Trump’s new patio where the Rose Garden lawn used to be is finished. It now has café tables with yellow striped umbrellas. Brian Glenn of right-wing media outlet Real America’s Voice noted: “Very ‘Mar-A-Lago’ ish. Nice!”
 

annabenedetti

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No wonder Trump was so interested in Fort Knox:

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annabenedetti

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In her ruling Thursday, Boardman certified a class of all children who have been born or will be born in the United States after Feb. 19, 2025, who would be affected by Trump's order.​
She said the plaintiffs in the lawsuit before her were "extremely likely" to win their argument that the birthright order violates the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which includes a citizenship clause that says all people born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to U.S. jurisdiction, are citizens. They were also likely to suffer irreparable harm if the order went into effect, she wrote.​
 

annabenedetti

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The announcement comes a day after President Trump said he was considering taking control of the Washington, D.C., police department
. . . .​
Crime in D.C. was down 35 percent in 2024 from the previous year, marking a 30-year low, and data from the District indicates the downward trend continuing.​


Remember how the right was freaked out over Operation Jade Helm during the Obama administration? How quaint that seems now. Interesting how the right has little interest in the Federal Government expanding its jurisdiction and power into the realm of states and districts.
 

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In her ruling Thursday, Boardman certified a class of all children who have been born or will be born in the United States after Feb. 19, 2025, who would be affected by Trump's order.​
She said the plaintiffs in the lawsuit before her were "extremely likely" to win their argument that the birthright order violates the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which includes a citizenship clause that says all people born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to U.S. jurisdiction, are citizens. They were also likely to suffer irreparable harm if the order went into effect, she wrote.​

You realize that the entire purpose for the "birthright citizenship" was for the children of slaves brought to the US, right? In other words, it's a holdover from back then.

It was never intended for illegal aliens birthing their children here like insects laying their eggs in another living creature...
 

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Does it concern you that the Trump administration takes unconstitutional actions?

You mean like the previous administrations have?

Or are you pleased that it's actively working towards the destruction of the current system?

I'm all for the destruction of our corrupt-beyond-repair government.

SURE it can. That's what amendments are for.

Yeah, that's the main problem. It can be amended.

A good constitution needs no amending.

Would your hypothetical goal be to remove the rights of voters who do vote, and who see their vote as a Constitutional right?

Who gave people the right to vote on God's moral laws?


Oh, I don't know... How about letting 10-20 MILLION foreigners into our country who have absolutely no desire to integrate into our society, only to bring their culture and customs with them, never to learn our language? How about literal socialism, communism (*cough* Mamdani *cough*), and taxation through the roof?

Do you seek to overthrow the current government through force? Because you're not using the power of your vote, so how else?

Power will be used by someone.

I would prefer it to be used by the right.
 
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