Where does the faithful Christian go when they die? To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. And where is He? Seated on the throne.
Dying means that they are dead, not alive.
When we are are absent from the body and present with the lord means we have been gathered together as I Thessalonians 4:13-17 speaks of
That is clear that that until Christ returns we are not with the lord but dead