ECT Great Commission

SaulToPaul 2

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I'm not disagreeing with you that death will be cast into the lake of fire when the thousand years are over.

I'm disagreeing with you on when you think "the end" took place.

I said the end in 1 Cor 15 is a different end than the one in Matthew 24, to LA.

You jumped in with your Darby nonsense to prove me wrong.

And you still have not proven that both ends are the same end.
 

tetelestai

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Yes, and every tongue shall confess that Jesus is Lord.

That has nothing to do with the return of Christ Jesus.

It's about the judgment seat

Try reading the previous verse

(Rom 14:10) ......For we will all stand before God's judgment seat.
 

tetelestai

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Death has not been cast into the lake of fire, so the LORD must still be reigning according to you?

The Saints are reigning with Christ Jesus right now.

Then the end in 1 Cor 15 could not have happened yet.

The end of the "thousand years" is different than the end of the ages that happened in 70AD
 

SaulToPaul 2

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That has nothing to do with the return of Christ Jesus.

It's about the judgment seat

Try reading the previous verse

(Rom 14:10) ......For we will all stand before God's judgment seat.

Philippians 2
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.


Did the Roman Army do that?
 

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The end of the OT age was when Jesus said: "It is finished", redemption became a fact. . . not any 70AD happening purposed to scatter the church.
 

tetelestai

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The end of the OT age was when Jesus said: "It is finished"

Nope.

That's not when the Old Covenant ended.

In fact, Jesus even tells us there were still Old Covenant prophecies that were to be fulfilled after the cross:

(Matt 24:15) So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand—

As we see above, the prophecy from Daniel was not fulfilled till after the cross.
 

tetelestai

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Philippians 2
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Seriously?

Phillippians 2 is not a prophecy.
 

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Nope.

That's not when the Old Covenant ended.

Keep it straight: we're not speaking of OT prophecies but covenants.

Jesus, when He died, redeemed all of mankind. Mankind is now of a new covenant and the basis of that new covenant is, redemption. Whether you understand or not you are of a new creation and just as able to violate it as Adam violated the first one in the beginning. That is up to you and dependent upon you, or any man, accepting the account of things brought about by the faithfulness of the man, Jesus Christ, the last/second Adam . . . and to act upon it. Let that be your culture lesson for today. . . .and wake up call.
 

tetelestai

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Keep it straight: we're not speaking of OT prophecies but covenants.

Jesus said "all things must be fulfilled."

In Acts 3:18 Peter tells his audience that Jesus fulfilled all the things prophesied about His suffering. Then in verse 21 Peter makes it clear that Jesus must stay in Heaven a little while until God restores everything that was prophesied in the OT by the prophets.

(Acts 3:21) Heaven must receive him until the time comes for God to restore everything, as he promised long ago through his holy prophets.
 

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Jesus said "all things must be fulfilled."

In Acts 3:18 Peter tells his audience that Jesus fulfilled all the things prophesied about His suffering. Then in verse 21 Peter makes it clear that Jesus must stay in Heaven a little while until God restores everything that was prophesied in the OT by the prophets.

(Acts 3:21) Heaven must receive him until the time comes for God to restore everything, as he promised long ago through his holy prophets.

You just can't do it, can you? Out #2.
 
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