Free Will

[God's Truth]

So what scripture says that man has a freewill?

The scripture where God hardened Pharaoh because Pharaoh was going to do something God did not want him to do is proof we have free will. According to your idiotic beliefs God made Pharaoh to believe but then had to harden him to stop believing. That is pathetic. If we have no free will then God would not have needed to harden him, He would have just made him to not believe Moses.

 

[popsthebuilder]

We wouldn't be told earnestly to repent(desist/change what one is doing) if we didn't have the capacity to do so.



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[beloved57]

We wouldn't be told earnestly to repent(desist/change what one is doing) if we didn't have the capacity to do so.



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Those in the flesh can't please God Rom 8:8 and can't be subject to God Rom 8:7

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[beloved57]

The scripture where God hardened Pharaoh because Pharaoh was going to do something God did not want him to do is proof we have free will. According to your idiotic beliefs God made Pharaoh to believe but then had to harden him to stop believing. That is pathetic. If we have no free will then God would not have needed to harden him, He would have just made him to not believe Moses.

So what scripture says that man has a freewill?

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[popsthebuilder]

Our natural greedy inclinations are not of the Spirit which is why we are told over and over to repent of the wants of self.

Of course neither our own will and desires formed through greed based on societal norms, nor the negation there of would be relevent or possible without free will.

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[beloved57]

Our natural greedy inclinations are not of the Spirit which is why we are told over and over to repent of the wants of self.

Of course neither our own will and desires formed through greed based on societal norms, nor the negation there of would be relevent or possible without free will.

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Those in the flesh can't please God or submit and obey God. Rom 8:7-8. That's all of us by nature.

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[popsthebuilder]

You cannot be obedient or faithful to two masters.

The fact that there is a right and a wrong shows too that there is a free will and or freedom to choose from right and wrong.



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[TulipBee]

Mankind always chooses wrong. Only grace, alone, will set it right.

The Bible clearly teaches that the natural man does not accept the things of God and are dead in sin. Completely unable to believe salvifically. Also, that the Spirit has to give life, the flesh is no help at all.

 

[beloved57]

You cannot be obedient or faithful to two masters.

The fact that there is a right and a wrong shows too that there is a free will and or freedom to choose from right and wrong.



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Way off track comment

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[TulipBee]

Free will always derails

 

[Eagles Wings]

You cannot be obedient or faithful to two masters.

The fact that there is a right and a wrong shows too that there is a free will and or freedom to choose from right and wrong.



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I think the bible is so clear that mankind does not will to choose God.

Even a tiny mustard seed of faith is due to His grace.

 

[beloved57]

I think the bible is so clear that mankind does not will to choose God.

Even a tiny mustard seed of faith is due to His grace.

Most people believe that faith in salvation is a natural human attribute.

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[freelight]

Free will always derails

Only when choosing wrongly, but 'God' allows the freedom to choose.

 

[beloved57]

Only when choosing wrongly, but 'God' allows the freedom to choose.

Those in the flesh can't please God Rom 8:8. They have no choice, they can't do it!

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[TulipBee]

Only when choosing wrongly, but 'God' allows the freedom to choose.

You took the wrong detour. You ought to return to the written Word

 

[freelight]

Those in the flesh can't please God Rom 8:8. They have no choice, they can't do it!

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They can choose to follow the spirit. Did you forget there were two choices Paul was discussing?

 

[beloved57]

They can choose to follow the spirit. Did you forget there were two choices Paul was discussing?

False teaching against the scripture! [emoji4]

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[freelight]

You took the wrong detour. You ought to return to the written Word

We go by both written word and the spirit of truth,....they are complimentary. - this goes for all religious cults and traditions, not just Judeo-Christian ones

 

[freelight]

False teaching against the scripture! [emoji4]

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- nope,...its in the 'scriptures'. - your pouting asides.

 

[beloved57]

- nope,...its in the 'scriptures'. - your pouting asides.

No you're against the scripture Rom 8:7-8 [emoji4]

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