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[Jerry Shugart]

Was Saul judged by the law?

If Saul was a believer then the following which applies to David (a believer who lived under the law) also applied to Saul:

"But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin" (Ro.4:5-8).​

If Saul was a believer then he will not be judged by the law. If he was not a believer then his judgment will be by the Law.

 

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If Saul was a believer then the following which applies to David (a believer who lived under the law) also applied to Saul:

"But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin" (Ro.4:5-8).​

If Saul was a believer then he will not be judged by the law. If he was not a believer then his judgment will be by the Law.

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If Saul was a believer then he will not be judged by the law. If he was not a believer then his judgment will be by the Law.

you do realize that Jews inherited salvation via the law

Gen_17:14 Any uncircumcised male who is not circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin shall be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant."

 

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Davids sins were forgiven
Psa 32:5 I acknowledged my sin to you, and I did not cover my iniquity; I said, "I will confess my transgressions to the LORD," and you forgave the iniquity of my sin. Selah.


sauls sins were not forgiven

1Sa 28:15 Then Samuel said to Saul, "Why have you disturbed me by bringing me up?" Saul answered, "I am in great distress, for the Philistines are warring against me, and God has turned away from me and answers me no more, either by prophets or by dreams. Therefore I have summoned you to tell me what I shall do.
1Sa 28:16 And Samuel said, "Why then do you ask me, since the LORD has turned from you and become your enemy?

 

[Jerry Shugart]

you do realize that Jews inherited salvation via the law

Gen_17:14 Any uncircumcised male who is not circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin shall be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant."

No, they received salvation through "faith," as witnessed by the following words of the Lord Jesus addressed to them:

"Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life" (Jn.5:24).​

In this verse the Greek word translated "believes" and the Greek word translated "has" are both in the "present" tense.

In The Blue Letter Bible we read the following meaning of the present tense:

"The present tense represents a simple statement of fact or reality viewed as occurring in actual time. In most cases this corresponds directly with the English present tense."​

Therefore, at John 5:24 the Lord Jesus is saying that those who were believing at the time He spoke those words had already received eternal life. That is what is meant as something being "viewed as occurring in actual time."

So once a person believes he receives eternal life

 

[Interplanner]

Believes what? Faith is only as good as its object.

 

[Jerry Shugart]

Believes what? Faith is only as good as its object.

The Jews who lived under the law while the Lord Jesus walked the earth received life when they were born of God when they believed that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God (1 Jn.5:1-5; Jn.20:31).