excellent example of MADism:

[God's Truth]

You are so self-righteous. And, apparently, you want put yourself under the law. Good luck with that.

There is a new law we are under.

1 Corinthians 9:21 To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God's law but am under Christ's law), so as to win those not having the law.

 

[God's Truth]

Show us covenant of works/grace in the Holy Bible

Galatians 4:22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons: the one by a bondwoman, the other by a freewoman. 23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born according to the flesh, and he of the freewoman through promise, 24 which things are symbolic. For these are the two covenants: the one from Mount Sinai which gives birth to bondage, which is Hagar— 25 for this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children— 26 but the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all.

 

[God's Truth]

I understand, you are saying the same thing with the rest of Paul admirers, nothing new.

We have to agree to disagree. I don't need to quote Paul to spread Jesus' messages.

thanks for your contribution.

You are not telling the truth. What I said is NOT what the Madists and others say. You, like them, resort to insults.

 

[God's Truth]

False accusations are very unbecoming of a supposed "Christian".

Why don't you go tell that to your brother John W?

Nonsense, you liar.

That passage in HEBREWS does NOT and CANNOT apply to the body of Christ.

Hebrews is to the body of Christ.

 

[Bright Raven]

Why don't you go tell that to your brother John W?



Hebrews is to the body of Christ.

Hebrews is to the Hebrew Christians.

 

[God's Truth]

You are an obvious "Anti-Semite" although I realize you cannot comprehend what I'm accusing you of, because of your innate ignorance/naivete.

Luke 19:42 and said, "If you, even you, had only known on this day what would bring you peace--but now it is hidden from your eyes.

Luke 8:10
He said, "The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of God has been given to you, but to others I speak in parables, so that, "'though seeing, they may not see; though hearing, they may not understand.'

John 12:40
"He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, so they can neither see with their eyes, nor understand with their hearts, nor turn--and I would heal them."

Romans 11:8
as it is written: "God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that could not see and ears that could not hear, to this very day."

Matthew 13:14
In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah: "'You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.

Mark 4:12 so that, "'they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!'"

Mark 8:17And Jesus, aware of this, said to them, "Why do you discuss the fact that you have no bread? Do you not yet see or understand? Do you have a hardened heart? 18"HAVING EYES, DO YOU NOT SEE? AND HAVING EARS, DO YOU NOT HEAR? And do you not remember,

Romans 11:32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

 

[God's Truth]

Hebrews is to the Hebrew Christians.

All Christians are the same and have the same Truth.

With your type of reasoning Corinthians is only to Corinthians.

You are not a Corinthian are you?

 

[God's Truth]

You still did not answer my question.

Do you think we cannot follow Jesus without Paul's word?

You are a sinner for judging a chosen of God's. God says not to judge His chosen.

 

[Bright Raven]

All Christians are the same and have the same Truth.

With your type of reasoning Corinthians is only to Corinthians.

You are not a Corinthian are you?

Who in the world do you think the Corinthian letters were written, the Laodiceans? :duh:

 

[God's Truth]

Who in the world do you think the Corinthian letters were written, the Laodiceans? :duh:

The Hebrew Christians were Christians just like the Corinthians.

 

[Bright Raven]

The Hebrew Christians were Christians just like the Corinthians.

It was still addressed to the Corinthians.

 

[God's Truth]

It was still addressed to the Corinthians.

What Jesus taught is to all of us. We all have to come into the Covenant of his body and blood. There is only one gospel to everyone. All the books in the New Testament are to teach all of us.

 

[heir]

You think so, because you do not know about Covenant Theology, and you do not want to know, because you deny any serious study of theology, church history, creeds, the church fathers, gaining wisdom, etc.

I know so because what you say, the terms you use, are not found in the Bible. You've been spoiled through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ (Colossians 2:8 KJV).

 

[heir]

So do many heretics and cults . . .

Do you?

 

[heir]

:rotfl:

IKR! That's quite a list. Everything except what saith the scripture.

 

[heir]

I don't understand why this is so difficult to understand unless of course, you're dealing with anti-semites at heart. If you are grafted into a tree that has a standing covenant, then you are part of that tree and it's standing covenant. If you are not grafted in, then you are outside the covenant and the tree. We were told what the tree is, we were told who the covenant is for (and it's not the goyim), so if you're not grafted in, then you are covenant-LESS.

If the Lord was standing before you saying, "All those who are grafted into Israel, step forward for your greater rewards", there would be a sudden avalanche in His direction. Unfortunately for those who didn't comply, He knows who are His. Which is really sad that anyone doesn't even know their own spiritual identity, if you think about it. Peace

There's no tree or covenant by which we are made partakers of Christ. It's by the gospel or you're out!

 

[heir]

It seems that they are politically motivated group based on "Zionism".

The love of Christ constraineth us (2 Corinthians 5:14-21 KJV).

 

[heir]

that's the bottom line of their faith, IMO.

It's about His faith (Romans 3:21-22 KJV, Galatians 2:16 KJV, Titus 1:2 KJV).

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

It's about His faith (Romans 3:21-22 KJV, Galatians 2:16 KJV, Titus 1:2 KJV).

Amen, Heir.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

I know so because what you say, the terms you use, are not found in the Bible. You've been spoiled through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ (Colossians 2:8 KJV).

YES!!!