# Equations

#### FineLinen

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"For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous."

Questions=

1. How many are "made sinners" by one man's disobedience?

2. How many are "made righteous" by one?

3. How much is "many"?

4. Are both sides equal?

Many>>>>>>Many

What is an equation?

Equation=

n. The act or process of equating or of being equated.

n. The state of being equal.

n. A statement asserting the equality of two expressions, usually written as a linear array of symbols that are separated into left and right sides and joined by an equal sign.

#### JudgeRightly

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"For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous."

Questions=

1. How many are "made sinners" by one man's disobedience?

2. How many are "made righteous" by one?

3. How much is "many"?

4. Are both sides equal?

Many>>>>>>Many

What is an equation?

Equation=

n.The act or process of equating or of being equated.

n.The state of being equal.

n.A statement asserting the equality of two expressions, usually written as a linear array of symbols that are separated into left and right sides and joined by an equal sign.
Many != All

#### ok doser

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"For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous."

Questions=

1. How many are "made sinners" by one man's disobedience?

2. How many are "made righteous" by one?

3. How much is "many"?

4. Are both sides equal?

Many>>>>>>Many

What is an equation?

Equation=

n. The act or process of equating or of being equated.

n. The state of being equal.

n. A statement asserting the equality of two expressions, usually written as a linear array of symbols that are separated into left and right sides and joined by an equal sign.

1. more than one
2. more than one
3. more than one
4. yes

Hall of Fame
My brain hurts.

#### ok doser

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Better stay off it for a couple days

#### Stripe

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I've put it in a sling.

#### Guyver

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"For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous."

Questions=

1. How many are "made sinners" by one man's disobedience?

Zero.

To consider someone a sinner because of something someone else has done would be unjust and makes no sense whatsoever.

#### FineLinen

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Dear J.R.: Many = all!

Perhaps we can change the equation to your definition of polus?

"For as by one man’s disobedience [ALL] were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall [ALL] be made righteous."

#### FineLinen

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Zero.

To consider someone a sinner because of something someone else has done would be unjust and makes no sense whatsoever.

Dear Guyver: Yup!

#### FineLinen

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1. more than one
2. more than one
3. more than one
4. yes

Dear O.D: Correct!

#### FineLinen

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One man’s disobedience result= many made sinners.

One Man’s obedience= many made righteous.

One man’s disobedience result= polus made sinners.

One Man’s obedience= polus made righteous.

So?

#### JudgeRightly

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Dear J.R.: Many = all!

Uh, no.

Perhaps we can change the equation to your definition of polus?

"For as by one man’s disobedience [ALL] were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall [ALL] be made righteous."

No, that would be YOUR definition.

"!=" means "not equal."

Many is not equal to all.

Many means many.

All means all.

The verse says "many."

The verse does not say "all."

#### Right Divider

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Uh, no.

No, that would be YOUR definition.

"!=" means "not equal."

Many is not equal to all.

Many means many.

All means all.

The verse says "many."

The verse does not say "all."
Totally in agreement with you.

I just wanted to make the point that sometimes ALL is used as GENERALIZATION and does not literally mean all (as in 100%).

#### FineLinen

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Dear J.R.: That was your quote big guy. "Many != All"

The word of course is polus, and polus means many, not pas, meaning the radical all. However, the equation is totally equal on both sides! Totally!

#### FineLinen

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I just wanted to make the point that sometimes ALL is used as GENERALIZATION and does not literally mean all (as in 100%).

Dr. Robert Young

Author of…

A New Translation Of The Bible

New Concordance To The Greek New Testament

Dictionary & Concordance Of Bible Words & Synonyms.

Concise Concordance To Eight Thousand Changes Of The Revised Testament

Numerous Other Words In Biblical & Oriental Literature.
Dr. Robert Young Analytical Concordance

pa’ß =

All points, all men, all things. All, whole, completely. (1075 verses)

All = lk=

All, the whole, any, each, every, everything, totality. (24 passages)

All =lylk=

Entire, all. Complete, wholly. (15 verses)

All = br =

Multitudes/ abundance (149 verses)

All= o&loß =

All. Whole. Completely. (99 verses)

This is your mission for today, should you be willing to accept it…

List the “many” Koine Greek scholars who maintain all does not mean all.

Koine Greek Scholars: All does not mean all =

1 _____________________________________________.

2.______________________________________________

3.______________________________________________

4.______________________________________________

Why not start with the Greek-English Lexicon Of The New Testament by William F. Arndt & Wilbur Gingrich

PAS, pa’sa, pa’n gen. pantov", pavsh", pantov" (dat. pl. pa’si and pa’sin vary considerably in the mss.; s. W-S. §5, 28; cf. Rob. 219-21) (Hom.+; inscr., pap., LXX, En., Ep. Arist., Philo, Joseph., Test. 12 Patr.).

#### 7djengo7

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"For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous."

Questions=

1. How many are "made sinners" by one man's disobedience?
Zero.
Dear Guyver: Yup!

Hahahahahahaha! Amazing! You just agreed with your Dear Bible-despising Guyver that ZERO were made sinners!

• ZERO is not, in any way, shape, or form, many.
• As you seem to have a thing for equations, please allow me to inform you that ZERO=ZERO. So, by agreeing with Guyver, you've just told us that ZERO shall be made righteous.

#### FineLinen

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Hahahahahahaha! Amazing! You just agreed with your Dear Bible-despising Guyver that ZERO were made sinners!

• ZERO is not, in any way, shape, or form, many.
• As you seem to have a thing for equations, please allow me to inform you that ZERO=ZERO. So, by agreeing with Guyver, you've just told us that ZERO shall be made righteous.

Dear 7D: "Bible despising" Guyver's complete post was Zero AND...

"To consider someone a sinner because of something someone else has done would be unjust and makes no sense whatsoever."

And "Bible despising" Guyver is right from an earthly point of view. The problem of course is the equation does not originate in the what we think.

With that in mind, lets place before us your view>>>>

Zero are made sinners>>>>>zero are made righteous.

#### 7djengo7

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Dear 7D: "Bible despising" Guyver's complete post was Zero AND...

"To consider someone a sinner because of something someone else has done would be unjust and makes no sense whatsoever."

So what?

And "Bible despising" Guyver is right from an earthly point of view.

That's mumbo jumbo.

The problem of course is the equation does not originate in the what we think.

Mumbo jumbo.

With that in mind, lets place before us your view>>>>

Zero are made sinners>>>>>zero are made righteous.

You should learn to write sentences in English.

#### FineLinen

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"Ya que como por la desobediencia de un hombre muchos fueron hechos a pecadores, entonces por la obediencia de uno va a muchos ser hechos honrado"