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Now you're equivocating. I made it clear above what I was talking about.
Again, abortion can be used to mean either "the intentional killing of the baby in the womb" (where what's being aborted is the life of the baby) or it can mean "the ending of the pregnancy" (where what's being aborted is the process of the woman's pregnancy, not the baby's life).
I am talking about the latter.
By asking me if I would allow for exceptions in an abortion law for the health of the mother, you are referring to the former.
My answer has not changed. The answer to your question is still NO.
Wrong. A doctor removing the baby from the mother to save her life is not an abortion of the baby's life, but an abortion of the pregnancy process.
If there was no baby involved, then there would be no need for the distinction, Anna, and most people assume they are the same thing. But since there IS a baby involved, it means, especially since I made the distinction earlier, that it's INCREDIBLY DISHONEST of you to ask me such a question as if they DO mean the same thing.
If ANY law ends with "and then you can (intentionally) kill the baby," it is inherently immoral, and legitimizes murder of children.
JR, legally, if you are aborting the baby to save the life of the mother, you are aborting the baby. Even if you're using the principle of double effect, that is, you're taking an action (saving the life of the mother) without the intent to do harm (aborting the baby), the fact remains that even without the intention to kill the baby, the baby will be killed to save the life of the mother. If left unremoved, the baby will die regardless, and in the process may kill the mother.
Your intent is good. The outcome is the same, and it needs to be spelled out in the law.
Pastor Enyart often stated that even if Roe was overturned (as it now has been), abortion would still be legal because of laws put into place by RE-publican politicians and the "pro-life" movement.
This isn't relevant to our current discussion. We already know what happens when it goes back to the states.