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ECT Do those who believe MAD have no problem disregarding what Jesus actually taught ?
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heir
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It's testimony that you endevour to NOT keep the unity of the Spirit which includes, but one baptism!
Ephesians 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
Ephesians 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;
Ephesians 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
Ephesians 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
Ephesians 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
Ephesians 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
The gospel that is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth is the gospel of Christ (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV). Water baptism has nothing to do with it!
heir
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1 Corinthians 11:1 KJV
What the Lord Jesus taught in His earthly ministry was in harmony with the prophets of Israel concerning the Davidic Messianic Kingdom to Israel and their being regathered and blessed as citizens in the land promised.
Christ instructed Paul to teach the BOC, the new entity composed of individual Jews and Gentiles on equal footing, that our citizenship is in heaven.
Things that are different are not the same.
Nang
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The sacraments (communion and baptism) were both established by Jesus Christ, who instructed His church to practice until His return. I Corinthians 11:26
These are not the fruit of philosophy or tradition, but the practice of holy obedience to the Word of God. I Corinthians Chapter 10, Matthew 28:19-20
You MADists claim all the time that you are the "body of Christ" and yet you do not hear or follow His words. :nono:
Nang
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Imitating Christ is the foundation for practicing the sacraments, as taught and exemplified by Paul.
And just before Peter could Acts 2:38 the guy (worketh righteousness by submitting to Israel's water cleansing ritual) the Spirit interrupted him "purifying their hearts by faith."
Just as Paul was saved BEFORE he had submitted to Israel's water cleansing ritual) in Acts 9.
This was why Paul was not sent to water baptize - it was being phased out now that Israel had fallen in Acts 7 per Matthew 12's warning.
Even Peter had tried to begin to understand this odd event to him.
Acts 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
Nang
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All the O.T. prophecies and promises of the Savior were fulfilled in Jesus Christ. Thus there is only one message to proclaim.
Your differing view is not the same of the Gospel of Jesus Christ that has been taught by His church since His ascension to this day.
dodge
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Still NOT even 1 teaching from Jesus that says or even implies 2 gospels.
Nang
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Jesus Christ was baptized in water and sealed with the Holy Spirit simultaneously.
Distinction between John's baptism and the Holy Spirit's baptism are legitimate (and Jesus' baptism clearly demonstrated this), but when the church practices water baptism and communion, they imitate Christ, not man.
heir
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Concerning water baptism, there is but one and it into Christ's death
Romans 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. 5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
It's a Spirit baptism into Christ,
Galatians 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
It is the one baptism of Ephesians 4 that we are to endevour to keep.
Ephesians 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called, 2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love; 3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. 4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
concerning the LS to the Body of Christ: 1 Corinthians 11:20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.
Simple stuff, folks!
Placing that which is to Israel onto someone in the dispensation of the grace of God is absolutely philosophies after the tradition of men! You are full of them!
1 Corinthians 4:15-16 KJV, 2 Timothy 2:15 KJV, baby!
Still waiting for you to believe scripture.
Galatians 2:7 KJV
(7) But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;
heir
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Do it!
Matthew 23:1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
Matthew 23:2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
Matthew 23:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
heir
TOL Subscriber
Your religious practices are after the traditions of men and have nothing to do with following Christ!
When John the Baptist appeared to Israel and said, "Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand." What did those that heard him and responded to him think that he meant by the term?
What was the only data that they had in order to understand what he meant?
What did the angel Gabriel mean when he said to Mary:
Luk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
Luk 1:33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob[Israel] for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
dodge
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All those scriptures mean is that Paul was sent to preach the gospel to the gentiles and Peter was sent to preach the gospel to the Jews.
Same message of Grace different folks with different backgrounds.
Nang
TOL Subscriber
Yes, we are baptized with the Holy Spirit upon regeneration, but that baptism is invisible. We witness to the eyes of the world that we identify with the life and death of Jesus Christ, through the practice of water baptism, in obedienced to Christ's instructions.
Cuts and pastes out of the context of Holy Scripture in order to change the teaching of Holy Scripture, is a terrible sin. Shame on you for daring to alter God's Word, only to sell a lie.
Very bad stuff, folks!
dodge
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Since when is obedience to Jesus traditions of men ?
Jesus instructed those in Him to be baptized and to take the Lord's supper in remembrance of Him.
Is it now vogue to disobey God and call what He said to do traditions of men ?